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full safi armour is game-changing; got me my second slay and a realisation that I actually really like this fight

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I love the noises it makes, some of them remind me a little bit of Giratina

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So here is a question. Why do people hate him? I know you guys are going to say the nova and that it forces you to fight in a specific way but it’s a black dragon
that is the symbol of destruction! Of course you have to fight him in a specific way! And it’s not that’s bad! You can still beat him without the elemental (although it is very hard) but it’s still possible. Personally I love the fight. It’s is one of my favorites if not my favorite!
And who ever said you can’t take your favorite weapon? You still can!


~ Eriatha

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The fume knight looks different from how I remember him.

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I managed to craft his charge blade and upgrade it without even killing him. get scammed bozo

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Ok I am back to help some more about farming him if you don’t have events. I have finally broken the wings. To do that you need to ALWAYS have them softened. When you get the elemental topple go for the wings. If you where using the LS like me then if you can do a red gauge helm when he is toppled. Usually you have to walk slam him to break the wings. I don’t know why or how it works but it does. The tail is way easier. Just keep it softened and hit it often and it will break at some point. I think that is all I have to say. Happy hunting and don’t give up!!

~ Eriatha

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I'm not having fun anymore

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Hey I just wanted to give some tips for farming him I if you can’t do events(like me). So let’s start with what I use:So usually I am a DB main. Not for this quest. Here used the LS. Specifically Aspara Glacia. I would go with the Frostfang Barioth one but like I said I can’t do events.I think the insect glaive does well too. For armor I used Rimgaurd Head chest waist and legs. I used Hoarcy gauntlets(I was to lazy to farm for the Velkhana crystal). The skills I used where these:
Ice attack lvl6
Health boost lvl3
Fortitude
Divine Blessing lvl3
I don’t really remember the other skills because they where lvl1. Always take Temporal mantel and health booster. Make your cat take the plunder blade. ALWAYS!!!!!!!!! I took my cat with zinogre but that’s probably a bad choice. Now to the tips:
1 When you start put on the Temporal mantle and hit him as much as you can. You will always try to get that elemental topple. Remember the objective is to farm not kill him. If you kill him you will lose the ability to fight him if you don’t have events.
2 Once you have toppled him try to start breaking the tail or wings.(I still haven’t actually broken the wings)

3 Once he goes into Dragon mode ALWAYS go for the horns. You really don’t want him going into Ice mode. Usually walk slamming him is a good tactic.
4 Once he does the Nova you should place down the Health Booster. Always have a Max potion at hand to survive.

For the most part you just repeat this. Remember. You are just trying to survive. You WILL be guaranteed to lose. Once you have farmed him enough maje the Alatreon chest plate and helmet. After I did this I went with these skills:
Evade window lvl2
Speed Eating lvl1
Dragon Resistance lvl2
Ice attack lvl6
Health boost lvl3
Resentment lvl4

And a few others. When you eat you are always going with +50 to health. If you can find one meal that does that with increased elemental resistance that is perfect. I am still having trouble trying to break the wings. If you guys have any tips I will gladly take them!! I think that is all I have to say right now. Good luck and hoped this helped!! Happy Hunting!

~ Eriatha

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So if you beat Blazing Black Twilight are you able to repeat the quest? See I want to know since I cant do events and I was wondering if I needed to continue grinding with the Plunderblade to get his armor/weapons.

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I know a lot of people don't like this guy but he's probably my favorite fight so far as a solo player, Fatalis is the last thing I have left.

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What is a good pair of dual blades to use (I can’t play events so don’t mention them)

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what have i gotten myself into...

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very strong

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"Heavily nerfed"

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one punch dragon

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If you use the fatalis full set with a meta aquashot sticky build you can actually take this thing down within 15 minutes... Sadly you will need to take the Nova's to the face... Sorry it is what it is but look on the bright side it's very easy to break both horns with the aquashot sticky 3.

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So he does high damage right? Would defense or elemental resistance be better for damage reduction?

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this fight is scripted
every single time, 100% of the time, when I claw to his head he does the attack where he summons lightning bolts cancelling the temporal mantle if I am on his head
I even waited for him to do this attack once and claw immediately after and he does it twice in the row
wtf!
he never did it twice when I wasn't clawing onto him
I tested it and started the fight 7 times doing the same thing mantle then claw to his head after dodging the fire attack/charge forward and he used lightning attack the second I claw onto him 7 times in a row even if I time it differently
and how in the world do I break his horns if he's constantly flying away from me, in the air or turns his back to me? I only have SO many flashpods with me
how do I fight this trash if I can't smack him and he's scripted to prevent tenderizing and wall banging?
on the other hand toppling him is so easy I forgot he has this escaton judgement gimmick which is just a chance to buff since you don't get to in the beginning of the quest lol what great design go run into a corner and eat a jerky

this fight is the definition of artificial difficulty
even capcom realizes that because they added a quest where they heavily nerfed him so that people can go fight fatalis, which is an infinitely more fun and fair monster to fight
ffs he doesn't even get his own arena or an explanation beyond lol alatreon is here go murder him which is all you need this is just a throwaway placeholder before the REAL fight that is fatalis

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imma do his quest for the first time. wish me luck.

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I was an anon that posted here that failed many times and complained about the mechanics of the fight. However today a beat him in 24 minutes using a GS which I had not used since before the expansion.

I failed my core principle that got me through MHW "Always trust the ungabunga" . I tried several meta sets like Kjar ice Dual blades and other sets used by civilised players and failed a total of 36 times. Today I beat with level 10 rimeguard armor and played horribly as I usually do but with the power of ungabunga which I rejected, I beat him in a good time by my standards.

Always trust the ungabunga! It will never fail you hunters!

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Only bad thing I can say is despite breaking both his horns Alatreon still switches to ice/fire. That is the only difficult part preventing me from beating him. I got real close today and his moves are easier to telegraph and I get 2 topples easily, I'll beat him one day.

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Alatreon is a tough fight (arguably rightfully so as he is one of the two "endgame" monsters). Playing greatsword, I struggled a lot with my first clear but now consider alatreon my favorite fight. Here are some brief tips for those having trouble (some will be specific for greatsword).

- preface: Solo is recommended for your first playthrough as missing the damage check will not end in an instant failure. In my experience, I would estimate about 6/10 - 8/10 alatreon SOSs end in failure, but some succeed. At the end of the day, it's a game. If you want to SOS, fire it off.

1. Weapon and Food
- Use an ice weapon for any alatreon mission NOT called "dawn of the deathstar". This will give you the best chance for elemental topples. Blast and other status ailments will NOT help you reach the elemental DPS check
- Safeguard is always a nice food choice if carting is a concern.
- Moxie is another solid choice and can be paired with elemental defense up large. (however if the ground it on fire, the benefit can be negated)
- Felyne riser is another good choice (increase invulnerability window when getting up from knock down). Can be combined with felyne medic.

2. Some useful Items:
- NULLBERRIES. Bring 10 and preferably save for dragonblight since you wont to elemental damage with dragonblight.
- Ancient Potions. Great for a quick max heal and have the supplies for 10 more with 10 immunizers and 10 kelbi horns
- If concerned about getting caught sharpening, Whetfish Fin+ sharpen you in 1 stroke and can easily be obtained through the event "A fish to whet your appetite". (ghille mantle + capture net = easy fish)
- Mega-armorskin/demondrug

3. Armor skills and Mantles
- Health boost 3. 50 extra HP can easily be the difference between life and death. (personally consider this almost mandatory)
- Evade window 3. Can be great for dodging certain attacks and repositioning (however not 100% necessary if don't have the decos)
- Blight Resistance can be useful, but nullberries can also get the job done instead
- Fortify can pair nicely with safeguard, and the extra defense can be a nice boost
- (early-midgame) Greatsword users: Rimeguard Beta helm, chest, waist, legs; damascus beta arms; focus 2 (or higher charm) with glacial demon can work as a nice frostcraft crit draw build.
- Temporal "can" be a good choice when grappling BUT do NOT grapple the head when alatreon is doing any lightning attack
- Personally a fan of Dragon mantle if dragonblight is an issue
- rocksteady "can" be good but can also be a deathtrap. Use with care.

4. The Fight
- Enrage to increase amount of elemental (and raw damage) that alatreon takes.
- One possible opening: Temporal on, grapple face when safe, 3 claw attacks + weapon attack or 5 claw attacks
- If having trouble with elemental DPS check, focus forearms. Hindlegs are next best option. (Focus head for horn break in dragon mode)
-**Lightning strike attack: when alatreon winds up to summon several lightning strikes at once, watch the static in around him. If the static is moving towards him the strikes will begin far away and move towards him. If the static is moving away from him, the strike begin close to his body.
- THE GROUND IS YOUR FRIEND. Alatreon loves to combo you, SO if you get knocked to the ground, it is often better to lay there for a moment to decide how to respond to his next move.
- If things have gone according to plan, Alatreon has been toppled at least once, has had a horn broken, and is now about to escaton judgement. This may seem counter intuitive, but when you see him starting to escaton, RUN TO HIM. The damage is going to be the same across the entire field so if you set up under him, you can get free damage in when he lands. (If properly timed with a greatsword, this can mean a TCS)
- Rinse and repeat until victorious

I'm sure I'm forgetting some important points, but I hope that this overview has been helpful to anyone struggling with the fight. Best of luck!

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'sup, fellow hunters! Just soloed my first Alatreon today, took me a few tries, a couple of different weapons but I've finally got Alan with my weebstick. Now, let me share with you fellas a few tips, for starters: go solo. Yeah, it's pretty obvious but who knows? Maybe someone out there will try to kill this bad boy with randoms, anyway, don't do it, for the love of whatever deity you believe in: go. solo. Alan may seem a little terrifying when you're on your own but don't fret, he's a tough cookie but there's worse out there (looking at ya, Fatty), well, where were we again? Yes, defeating Alan. Equip yourself with as much Critical Eye as you can for dem sweet critical hits and Critical Boost for a... boost (sorry, I couldn't help myself). Agitator is good too, since Alan is pissed during most part of the battle, don't even bother with max attack, boost it to lv.4 and you're good to go. If you're a scrub like me and get hit often, bring Temporal Mantle, equip Tool Specialist so you can use it more frequently, oh, Health Regen in your weapon is a nice bonus, it can save you in a bind. Give your cat the Vigorwasp, it can revive you once if Alan kills you. If you can't hit the 20 points of Dragon Resistance, don't worry, just bring a few nullberries aaaaaand problem solved. Well, it's not as good as not having to worry about dragonblight at all but hey, better than nothing! And last but not least, Ice/Fire Attack, depending on what version of Alan you'll be facing. Once you're ready, go to town.

Try not to think much about the timer, it'll only get you killed faster, take your time, dodge and try to floor Alan when you get the chance, he screeches after an elemental attack, grab him by the face and yeet him to the floor, if you can't pull off a Flinch Shot, use the Temporal Mantle and send his crashing down. It's not easy to pass the DPS check but it's not that nightmarish either and even if you fail, it is not nearly as bad as it is when you fail with a team, you'll be sent back to camp and get another chance to kill Alan. If he changes to the element you're currently equiped with, it's okay, it won't be long until he shifts again, you'll only have less time to prevent his full-power Escargot Judgement but you still can catch up if you push a little harder, go for it if you think you can do it. If Alan takes his sweet time flying around, use a Smoke Bomb, once he loses sight of you, he'll land after a few seconds and you can resume the battle. Don't be shy about using your healing items, if you're in danger, use it, you'll likely cart anyway, or not, depending on how good you are, but if you can solo this battle without carting, you probably don't even need my help in the first place.

I cleared Alan's boss battle within 25 minutes, it's not that impressive but I got it anyways... now, on to craft me some weapons. ~♫

Good luck and happy hunting!

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Have 500+ hours of MHW, soloed every mother****er this game trhrew at me. Alatreon and Fatalis just sucked all of the joy of the game for me and made me quit. Just not fun to solo. No, i dont have ps+ :/

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For the last time
Please and i mean please don't bring raging brachy or alatreon weapons to a blazing black twilight. I have seen too many dark claw demises in my alatreon hunts.

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I call Alatreon the Black Destroyer

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I dunno why my comment got deleted, all i said was that Alatreon and Fatalis are not fun to solo :/

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To all the hammer mains disappointed about their low elemental damage, don’t fret. You can have your comfort armor but replace the helmet with a velkhana headpiece, even better if its the AT one. This will give you coalescence which is super useful. Then you can slot in frost/blaze jewels for that max ice/fire attack boost. What I really recommend is farming Safijiiva dracolites and getting a Safi Frostcrusher/Hellcrusher. You can then awaken it by using One velkhana divinity and the rest all element up. If u max it all up, you should have 900 plus ice/fire dmg. Why have the velkhana divinity? Because you have the Velkhana headpiece, you can activate the velkhana divinity bonus skill and get very good elemental damage when you critical. Memorise his moveset and learn about his openings after each attack, and you can finally topple alatreon and beat him up. You can easily break his horns with the hammer. btw u can always use any fire/ice weapon as long as the element is above 800, but if ur dps is not fast enough try to aim for 900. good luck, unga bunga mains! -sincerely from a bonker main

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eat for safeguard, its much easier to brute force it if you dont mind carting at least once

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Do I neeeeed to wear armour when fighting him??.. I broke his horn and I still died to escaton judgement

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Finally I can farm him with my Velkhana Gamma armor and my Safi Weapons. I need his LBG

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1. Bring Temporal and Rocksteady Mantle. BRING AN ICE WEAPON!!! Use Rocksteady for Fire mode and Temporal for Dragon Mode to flinch shot. Take off your mantle as SOON AS IT RUNS OUT.

2. Bring materials to craft max potions mid fight in case you run out of healing.

2. Do not flinch shot it until it's in Dragon Mode. Don't try to flinch shot when it's standing on the ground, it's too inconsistent, use temporal mantle to flinch shot it while it's flying. Focus on breaking the horn in dragon mode, best opportunity is after a flinch shot.

3. Use fast and multi hitting attacks to pass the DPS check. The best opportunity to attack is during lightning attacks. Make sure you dodge first though if it's targetting you with the line attacks.

4. During Eschaton Judgement eat Astera Jerky. Don't eat it too late, eat it about a second after the attack starts and eat another one when it's over to recover most of your HP.

5. Don't forget to restock all your healing items and bring dust if you do get carted.

6. Bring Blast Resistance 3 if you can. If you have dragonblight you STOP DOING ELEMENTAL DAMAGE. Or bring Coalescence to gain a strong elemental damage buff whenever you recover from a blight.

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This fight was easier, better and more fun in MH3U, it could be stunned fairly easily, it could get it's horns stuck in a couple walls (like diablos) and breaking it's horn actually hindered it since there was no dps (to my recollection). I learned hammer entirely in that game from just fighting it and I was GS main back then until Alateron. Now it just feels awful to fight, and maining lance doesn't help. I wish they brought Dire Miralis back instead of this but we already have one walking volcano, I guess two is one too many for capcom. Jhen Moran would've been cool to have too (it even has a subspieces, but it's second phase is just kinda a punching bag), but alas they took a great fight and made it feel like utter poo.

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Broke both of his horns with my Frostfang Barioth GS pretty quick. After seeing how much health he has I don't think I was even close...

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Say what you want about him but mf has the best quest names. ****ing Dawn of the Death Star and The Evening Star, Blazing Black Twilight, and Dawns Truimph.

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The monster that made me drop mhw..
I just can not stomach all the annoying mechanics in this fight.
Elemental blights of all kinds, a one shot if an invisible elemental dps check is not met, which in and of itself made elemental builds mandatory..constant flying, constant AoE spam..
The entire fight is just too cancerous to be bothered with.

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POV: you only wanted the long sword

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I just solo'd him today with Frostcraft Greatsword! What an incredible fight. It was so awesome and relieving seeing the camera pan around the slain Alatreon because I couldn't weaken the next escaton judgement; it had switched the the element of my weapon. 10/10 would play again.

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As much as I appreciate a challenge too much of the fight is cheap rather than challenging. Drops you in so you have to waste time buffing, only 2 or 3 actual walls to slam AL against, a backstep move, area sweep attacks and chaining moves that make his head a danger zone to clutch to plus flies. Escation Judgement is reasonable in comparison to all this. Though frankly the only two things I have extreme resentment for is the lack of "real" walls in the arena and the backstep fireball.

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other than db all weapons suck too low raw damage, such a cool monster to solo :(

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Thumbs up if you think Alatreon looks better or thumbs it down if you think Kulve looks better. Know time to thumbs down my own comment…

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i can never get the direwings, if anyone can help, can you reply?

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I've seen a few people say it's not sensible to try with a GS

I've failed a lot until now, but with the Taroth Blaze Thunder fully upgraded with Elem up and Bolt gems, I beat it by accident just now.
1000 thunder damage, baby

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Ok this might sound pathetic but I keep losing to the quest Dawns Triumph. I wreck the things health but he hits really hard. Can you guys give me some tips. I am wearing Shara armor and I am a LS main. I also use the IG SA and CB.

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Ёбаный элементальный дпс чек с конченной механикой. Фаталис легче этого куска говна.

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O dragon of the elements
See the Hunters pitch their tents
A battle had begun
A time of forever done
If this fight is lost
Hunters blow your horns
Hone your blades and release your arrows!

~M&S

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the Grim Reaper has arrived

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The run should be perfect. Kill him before the third eschaton breaking both horns and get it over with in sub 20 min... or be a scrub and use dragon element and fight him for 30 minutes without breaking a single horn, while loudly proclaiming how ‘easy’ he is on forums.

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i don't care about skills and attacks and other bullcrap, i just wanna fight this thing so bad but ruiner nergigante's being an ******* to me

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I would recommend only fighting solo or duo it is way easier, break the horns, and take him to pound town.

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What are some good LS builds for alatreon, I tried dark claw demise but that was doodoo

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Any tips on a good dps build with an insect glaive? Tryna solo this and im not getting anywhere.

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lol

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Yes finally i killedhim with my velkhana insevt glaive and send help bcs i did the dawn's triumph alatreon ;-;

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just realized the wiki is edited by scrubs. so much scrub info

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Now after 6 solo tries I still fail this quest but I broke its first horn within 4 minutes! I am using longsword so my strategy is primarily perfect iai spirit slash timing. My goal is not to play safe, rather I need to counter all his attacks and maximize elemental/ raw dps. The only way to kill this solo is by speedrunning it.

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The avatar

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Why can't I reply to any comments on this page?

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I told myself I'll solo him , since I have a sort of rivalry with him from 3U.
The first few times I tried, I failed utterly, mostly because it took me a while to realise my safi-resentment set didn't work, because of my health regen augment.
Switched my armour to an agitator build, had 560 Element with IG.
Killed him first try with that set, 23minutes, was far from a perfect run, could definetly shave the time down by 2-3 minutes.
I really like what they did with the fight, I'm one of the few people who has nothing against the Escaton Judgement, and even though you can argue it's "fake" difficulty, I still enjoy more of a challenge. With my set, I toppled him in 2 minutes, and then proceeded to bully him to the ground. I really think they did him well, the weapons could've been more diverse though.

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The last airbender

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Made it (the short one, but still). Switched to support for this fight (lancer primary, to fast for me yet). Kulve Taroth + Frostfanng Barioth SnS.
But to be honest - Raging Brachy was way more harder, maybe because he is the first of an end game challenge.
Good luck to everyone!

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so glad they didn't bring back skypiercer from 3 ultimate had to break both horns for a CHANCE TO GET IT AND YOU NEEDED IT TO MAKE EVERY ALATREON WEAPON OR ARMOR while skyswayer is better its not that much better you still need to break the horn like your going to get a chance to go for the head

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Man, this guide is really laying out all the helpful tips and tricks right down to weapon match ups. I wish all of the pages were like this, but I guess it would be pretty demanding to emulate this for every minor monster fight.

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Love a supernova that you can't survive. What an amazing job the developers did

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Feel kinda bad for the guy. first got beaten up by Fatalis and retreated with only 30% of his health left, and in "Dawn Triumphs" we just come in and finish him off. btw can anybody confirm this is true? I heard that Alatreon was weak because Fatalis beat him up badly but can anyone clarify?

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Why is he not called a black dragon D: Also are these the official monster hunter wikis

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how many hp does he has on duo?

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he has a witch face if you look closely

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finally solo's the bastard and not the reddit mode one either Im talking ACTUAL alatreon. Damn I feel good I just wanted to share even though most won't find it impressive.

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I’ve tested this btw, you can wear a vitality mantle and survive his supernova while he is NOT weakened as long as you drink a mega potion and have close to max health

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people still think oroshi kirin is coming but i dont think so. we got fatalis instaed.

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“The Damage the Attack deals is dependant on how many times Alatreon has been KO'd due to elemental damage prior to the supernova” what does KO’d mean here? what visual cue am I looking for?

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Freaking impossible with Switch Axe, I tried 10+ times with it to no avail. Got him 3rd try with sword and shield

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I don’t know why but in case your wondering you can get riptalons from flinch shots probably useless now but I don’t know

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alatreon is resistant to blast

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how the hell do you survive his giant supernova attack?

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Does anyone know how much elemental damage has to be done solo to KO this beauty to weaken the nova?

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I solo'd this bastard now i'm going for it's armour ready for fatalis...currently donning Stygian//Tigrex with max heath charm - managed to get 2 azure dragonspires, one from carve and one from 4x cart part break (1st horn).

Literally Fatalis is my favourite monster i'm hyped to had unlocked him solo but. i'm telling you all now, be ready for the fatalis as even with maxed out armour, he can still OHTK cart you

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air,fire,water, and earth

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needs an electric, dragon and, water special move but lets be honest waterblight is kinda lame

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hunter. ''I have 5 billion defense armor.''
alatreon. ''you are already dead''
hunter. ''nani. *faints*
Game. ''quest failed''

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**** this monster with a rusty sword. just download PC cheats and use cheat weapons in Public to help people cause **** WHOEVER SAID "lets add this **** of a monster"

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Git gud. If you cant hack it you clearly arnt good enough. Go fight the easier baby monsters lol

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Alatreon no longer has the highest hp of all single player monsters it's now fatalis

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No need to fight the blazing black twilight Alatreon. You just need to defeat the dawn of triumph Alatreon, That Alatreon has very little HP so I recommend soloing it. Also don't forget to be over master rank 24.

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So I've heard the Special Assignment Alatreon you need to fight to unlock Fatalis is weaker than the base. Does anyone have the data on the differences between the 2? Like, comparatively how much health does the new one have?

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Ok Alatreon I didn't want to do this (at all) but you leave me no choice (actually capcom gave me no choice). You can cart me twice, you can cart me 3x, you can cart me 10 times. But nothing is gonna stop me for experiencing the black dragon himself, Fatalis. So I will hunt you and.... I will kill you. So watch out Fatalis because I'm coming for ya armor!

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List of the PTSD monsters( a term I use for fights that are often complained about in their games):
Ist gen: Fatalis
2nd Gen: Tigrex and Rajang
3rd gen: Alatreon, Deviljho, Dire Miralis
4th gen: Apexs, Bloodbath Diablos, Boltreaver Astalos, hyper Jho, hyper metal raths
5th gen: New Alatreon, AT Nergigante, Behemoth, Ancient Leshen, Lunastra

...I think this is it. I might be wrong though.

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Guy's, he's not actually that hard if you have a team that knows what they're doing. At this point, seeing as how you've already looked him up to find this page, you probably know what to do. The problem is that, he's actually difficult to solo, since he simply target you, making it hard to land hits. He's actually really easy with people who what to do. It's very hard to find people who haven't beaten it, who actually know what to do. So, you'll have a hard time through most means, but, if you're like me, and you get VERY lucky via SOS flare, you can get a halfway decent team, and actually clap this *****. After that, you can post the event quest, and send out an SOS. Because only people who have beaten it can join. People who know what they're doing.

My point is, the first fight is by far the hardest. Once you beat him the first time, it's all downhill. You CAN do it. It is possible. Even if you're having doubts, you may as well. Or you won't be able to do Fatalis. All that hype you had will be wasted. Don't let it go to waste. Don't waste it. Don't.

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uh it says he controls all the elements but he only uses two of them
???

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Guys, what do you think AT Alatreon will be like? ... I scream in terror just thinking about it XD

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i also call him the element dragon lord

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use five words to best describe how cool alatreon is so i have good evidence that i should really give this beast of legends a real challenge

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Well for me greatsword is easy to kill Alatreon lol

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What does "Elemental damage is primordial against Alatreon" mean

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I don't really like meta builds but it feels like I gottah do it for the bow to stand a chance against Alatreon

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How to slay Alatreon?
Just get rekt till you get gud. Learned it the hardway. Once you get the hang of it, its not that hard anymore.

Tips tho, if you could gather Alatreon armor the a or b set, max their upgrade and you'll hv easier time to defeat Alatreon after that.

Go with randoms if you couldn't do it solo. With luck they'll help you dlay Alatreon. You just have to die till you get gud.

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Is the Alatreon beta armor better than the Alpha? Also gonna try fighting him again at Saturday or Sunday so wish me luck:) (also i'm ofc gonna go in with a team so wish them luck to) Also if you guys have any tips for Alatreon (especially escaton judgment) please reply down below thanks :)

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I think another way Capcom could make this fight easier especially for melee users without a nerf would be putting throwing knives in the supply box. That would open the opportunity for status attacks for any hunter which could lead to openings, easier horn break, and another way for melee hunters to bring alatreon down from the sky. I remember in Kulve Taroth siege it was good to pick up the knives from gajalakas to paralyze Taroth in the final area. You could even attack the lynians in normal hunts for knives but in many quests like this one, ishvalda, arenas, etc. You don't have this option if they're going to give you traps they might as well throw knives in the box this item is potent yet underutilized.

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My formula to consistently beating Alatreon is pretty simple (and I'm not exactly a top tier player). First, get Dual Blades that can do at least 400+ elemental damage opposing Alatreon's initial form (I personally use Kjarr with around 600+ and can easily topple it twice before each EJ), get affinity up to at least 50% (Kjarr's built-in Critical Element does wonders here), and spec for Health Boost and Blight Resist 3. Speed Eating 3 is also super helpful to eliminate downtime from heals. Pack some Dash Juices, and go wild. Alatreon has a LOT of attacks that are easy to punish if you stay close: the big grounded headbutt is massively telegraphed and leaves him wide open, you can zip around all lightning attacks while dealing damage with DBs, and all grounded breath attacks are just free damage. Wail on the head every time you knock it down, use aerial flinch shots/grounded wall bangs during the Dragon phase to get horn breaks as needed. Also eat for Felyne Safeguard if desired, because eventually you'll run out of horns to break, and you might not kill Alatreon in time before he switches to an incompatible element. If you don't want to deal with horn breaks, use Dragon DBs with around 600+ elemental; you'll probably only manage one topple, but it's absolutely doable. S&S is a good alternative to DBs, especially if you're good at landing Perfect Rush. Honestly, the actual combat with Alatreon isn't extremely difficult and is surprisingly well-crafted, it's just the DPS check that freaks people out. So once you've learned that threshold for toppling the beast and surviving EJ, it becomes a far less intimidating fight.

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