Alatreon |
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Enemy Type | Large Monsters |
Species | Elder Dragons |
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Weakness | Fire Active:![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Dragon Active: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Ice Active: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Location(s) | Secluded Valley |
Alatreon is a Large Monster in Monster Hunter World (MHW). アルバトリオン (Arubatorion) in Japanese.
Known as a symbol of destruction, people fear even uttering its name. It’s rumoured to control all of the elements, but most, if not all, records of its existence have been burned.
Alatreon Details & Locations
- Found in: Secluded Valley
- Target of Quests: Blazing Black Twilight, The Evening Star, Dawn of the Death Star, Dawn's Triumph.
- Is hostile immediately
- Size: Alatreon's size does not vary and is always 2474.69
- Species: Elder Dragon
- HP: ~52,500(solo), ~79,000(duo), 118,125(3 or 4 players)
Alatreon Combat Info
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Alatreon appears in two Special Assignments and two Event Quests. The two event quests (Evening Star and Death Star) rotate daily and depend on the date the player completed Blazing Black Twilight. In Blazing Black Twilight, Dawn's Triumph, and The Evening Star, Alatreon starts in Fire Active. In Dawn of the Death Star, Alatreon starts in Ice Active.
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Alatreon can use attack from any element in any form, though he tends to prioritize the ones that corresponds to his active state.
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Unless you can beat him without mistakes, elemental damage is essential against Alatreon, as doing enough elemental damage will weaken his supernova, which will cart the hunter in almost every case if not weakened.
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Alatreon's elemental weakness changes depending on its active element and is extremely resistant to all ailments.
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Kinsect Extracts:
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Red: Head
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Orange: Legs
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White: Wings
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Elemental Rotatation
Alatreon has three elemental states: Fire, Dragon and Ice, through which he will circle during the hunt. Alatreon switches elements every 3 minutes. Depending on the quest you fight Alatreon in, the rotation will be different.
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In both Special Assignments and the Event Quest "The Evening Star", Alatreon will start in Fire Active and switch as follows:
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Fire to Dragon to Ice to Dragon to Fire
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In the Event Quest "Dawn of the Death Star", Alatreon will start in Ice Active and switch as follows:
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Ice to Dragon to Fire to Dragon to Ice
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Every time Alatreon Switches from Dragon to the next element he will perform Escaton Judgement. Hopefully, Alatreon's power has been contained enough at this point to make the attack survivable. By breaking Alatreon's horns when in Dragon active, the next Elemental State can be avoided, and Alatreon will be forced to switch back to the previous element. The rotation of the elements resets back to the start.
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Example: If Alatreon switched from Fire to Dragon and you break his horns, he will be forced to switch to Fire again, after he performs the Escaton Judgement. If you failed to break his horns, he will switch to Ice.
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Unless the group uses mostly Dragon weapons for some reason, eliminating either Fire Active or Ice Active from the rotation is critical to success.
Strategies
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If you aren't in Blazing Black Twilight (or after a cart in that quest), take the crystalburst at camp. It will always stagger Alatreon, and it can save your life if you get pinned.
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A great way to start the fight is to have Temporal/Rocksteady equipped, immediately claw onto his head, claw him twice, then flinch shot him into the wall directly behind him. It's a bit luck dependent if he charges forward or does the lightning attack, but the charge forward is what you should be looking for.
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Although Water and Thunder are marked as 2 stars weaknesses for Fire and Ice Active respectively, Fire and Ice are a lot more effective against their counterpart, even though they are only marked 1 star higher.
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Ice damage is effective against fire Alatreon, and vice versa. Dragon is awful against Alatreon unless you have a lot of trouble breaking his horns. If you are using fire or ice element, breaking his horns is vital to keeping Alatreon in the opposite element after he does Escaton Judgement. If he switches to the same element as your weapons, no attacks will contribute to the elemental topple until he switches back to Dragon, leaving you a very small window to build up element to weaken the next nova.
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Frostfang Barioth weapons are highly recommended against his fire active quests if you do not have Kjárr weapons.
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A popular strategy is to wait until Alatreon goes into Dragon Active before wall-slamming him, since it deals heavy damage to his horns.
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Alatreon can be very tricky to wall-slam, as it only works if he hits one of the three big rock formations on the edge of the arena. Alternatively, Alatreon can be slammed down to the ground when he's flying. If you don't have Temporal Mantle equipped, one great opportunity to flinch shot him to the ground is to wait until after he does the two head pounds, then clutch claw and flinch shot.
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Alatreon can be stunned with Flash Pods (even out of the air), but only when he's not enraged.
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Consider staying on the floor after getting hit, as Alatreon comboes a lot of his moves, and staying on the ground leaves you invincible.
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Good Luck Pal! You're gonna need it!
Surviving Escaton Judgement
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Escaton Judgement, Alatreon's Ultimate Attack. It is indicated by the entire Arena filling with Frost of Fire and the Sound getting notably muffled. After roughly five seconds, Alatreon releases a massive, arena-wide elemental blast, that deals a set amount of damage in 5 seconds.
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The Supernova functions identically to Lunastra's Supernova. Only this time, there is no running from it. The damage is dealt in form of red recoverable health without stagger or knockback. It is not possible to i-frame it, and it will not trigger Vigorwasp Revival. Dodging, including the Superman dive, and most mantles are useless.
- Dealing enough elemental damage to Alatreon will cause him to do a special topple animation (similar to Velkhana when you break her ice armor), followed by a big rumble if you use controller. Once this happens, the next Escaton Judgment will be severely weakened.
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The damage dealt by the nova is dependent on how many times Alatreon has been toppled through elemental damage before Escaton Judgment. This counter resets after every EJ. Note that every weapon has a "elemental multiplier," which allows weapons that are not normally elemental focused to also pass the DPS check.
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0 times: The supernova deals 1000 damage in 5 seconds. It is only possible to survive this nova through extreme coordination and perfect timing, but you shouldn't count on that. Improbable, not impossible.
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1 time: Deals around 280 damage. Easily survivable with two Astera Jerkies / Sushifish Scales / Max Potions without Health Boost or Health Booster. If you have 200 health without Speed Eating, you can time using one Astera Jerky at 4 ticks of damage, and survive with about 100 health.
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2 times: The supernova now only deals 140 damage in 5 Seconds, making it completely survivable without healing if you start at full 150 health.
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3+ times: Alatreons Power is fully contained and the Supernova deals a miniscule amount of damage.
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- Players can survive Escaton Judgment more easily by getting together and placing down their Health Boosters at the same spot, since they stack. Lifepowder and Dust of Life can be also be beneficial.*
Recommended Skills
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Health Boost: Extremely useful considering Alatreon's high damage output.
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Blight Resistance: All Alatreon attacks are elemental, and can inflict blights, this skill eliminates a huge part of the hassle of this fight.
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Dragon Resistance: Since Dragonblight shuts down your elemental damage (required to weaken Escaton Judgment), it is very important to make sure you aren't hit by this blight. Having a dragon resistance of 20 or more will prevent him from inflicting Dragonblight, but you still will be hit by other blights, which in turn will proc Coalescence.
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Coalescence: This is almost a free damage boost considering how many blights Alatreon inflicts to the hunters. Note that Blight Resistance lv3 will nullify Coalescence (use lv2 instead).
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Agitator: Alatreon stays in enraged state for a very long time, making this skill very good.
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Fortify: Mainly useful if you intend to bruteforce Alatreon by ignoring his elemental damage mechanics.
Weapon Match-Ups
Dual Blades |
Champion of elemental damage, it can benefit from Alatreon's high sever hitzones as well. Keep in mind some of his attacks might be hard to see if you're focusing the backlegs. |
Insect Glaive |
The kinsect alone has higher elemental output than most weapons in the game, making it possible to hit the elemental topple even without any element on the weapon. Alatreon also has plenty of openings to use Descending Thrust on him. |
Sword and Shield |
The weapon could have some issues hitting Alatreon's head sometimes, but overall its high raw damage output allows it to clear the hunt easily. Note that the shield attacks don't do elemental damage, and Perfect Rush combo has some shield attacks. |
Bow |
Bow suffers a little against Alatreon due to the awkward shot hitzones (see Bowguns below for more details). It can still hit elemental topples easily thanks to the high elemental damage output. |
Hunting Horn |
Alatreon might not get stunned easily but it is possible. The best part about the Hunting Horn are the songs though. Especially Elemental Resist Up and Remove Blights will be very helpful. Ultimately more of a support weapon against Alatreon. |
Longsword |
Overall pretty moderate elemental damage, but a relatively safe weapon overall. |
Charge Blade |
Can score topples very easily thanks to the high elemental damage output of phials and Savage Axe ticks. The weapon has also a relatively high modifier when it comes to the elemental topple buildup. |
Switch Axe |
In sword mode, the weapon has pretty high elemental output, especially when using power element phials. In axe mode, the increased part break values of Power Axe will contribute towards tripping Alatreon. |
Greatsword |
Greatsword is surprisingly good against Alatreon because of its high innate part break values, which count towards the elemental topple. However, unexperienced players might struggle because of the low elemental output of the weapon. |
Hammer |
Like Greatsword, it has comparatively poor elemental damage. It is recommended to abuse spinning bludgeons on the head or the forelegs to rack up as much elemental damage as possible. |
Lance |
It can apply elemental damage decently, but it might have issues catching up with Alatreon while he jumps around the arena. |
Gunlance |
It is recommended to use melee attacks rather than shelling on Gunlance until Alatreon topples. |
Bowguns |
While Elemental Ammo can score the elemental topple pretty easily, the awkward shot hitzones (which are very low on parts that have high elemental hitzones) and the inability to use Farcaster to restock makes it one of the worst match-ups against Alatreon. For this reason, it is recommended to use Pierce Ammo instead and focus Alatreon's chest. Note that this will likely require you to cart during the nova. |
Best Armor Sets
Safi'jiiva |
Best elemental set for Kjarr weapons and bowguns. Increases the elemental damage significantly but at the cost of health. If you are confident in your abilities to avoid damage, go ahead. Keep in mind however that Alatreon can quickly cut your health bar in half with most attacks. |
Raging Brachy |
Two pieces for Agitator Secret is a pretty good deal, especially since Alatreon stays enraged for long periods of time. |
Silver Sol / Azure Age |
True Critical Element will amp up your Elemental Damage. However it requires 4 equipment slots and is vastly inferior to Kjarr weapon + Safi set bonus. |
Alatreon Weaknesses
Each ⭐star shown below represents more weakness to each ailment
Detailed weakness information(Legend Explanation: here)
Credits to AsteriskAmpersand, Deathcream and MoonBunnie.
Alatreon Low and High Rank Carves
Defeating this monster allows the player to carve the following items:
Alatreon Carves
Carves | Frequency | % |
Alatreon Mantle | ⭐⭐⭐ | |
Alatreon Pallium | ⭐⭐⭐ | |
Alatreon Riptalon | ⭐⭐⭐ | |
Alatreon Diretail | ⭐⭐ | |
Alatreon Direwing (Wing Broken) | ⭐⭐ | |
Skyswayer (Horn Broken) | ⭐⭐ |
Alatreon Rewards
Rewards | Frequency | % |
Alatreon Pallium | ⭐ | |
Alatreon Mantle | ⭐ | |
Alatreon Riptalon | ⭐ | |
Alatreon Direwing | ⭐ | |
Alatreon Diretail | ⭐ |
Alatreon Weapons & Armor
Armor and Weapons related to the Alatreon Monster.
Weapons
Armor
Notes & Trivia
- It is known as the "Blazing Black Dragon".
- Alatreon has the most physiology diagrams of any monster, one for each of its active states.
- Unlike Shara Ishvalda, the displays only differ in terms of elemental weaknesses, not physical design.
Large Monsters |
Acidic Glavenus ♦ Ancient Leshen ♦ Anjanath ♦ Azure Rathalos ♦ Banbaro ♦ Barioth ♦ Barroth ♦ Bazelgeuse ♦ Behemoth ♦ Beotodus ♦ Black Diablos ♦ Blackveil Vaal Hazak ♦ Brachydios ♦ Brute Tigrex ♦ Coral Pukei-Pukei ♦ Deviljho ♦ Diablos ♦ Dodogama ♦ Ebony Odogaron ♦ Fatalis ♦ Frostfang Barioth ♦ Fulgur Anjanath ♦ Furious Rajang ♦ Glavenus ♦ Gold Rathian ♦ Great Girros ♦ Great Jagras ♦ Jyuratodus ♦ Kirin ♦ Kulu-Ya-Ku ♦ Kulve Taroth ♦ Kushala Daora ♦ Lavasioth ♦ Legiana ♦ Leshen ♦ Lunastra ♦ Namielle ♦ Nargacuga ♦ Nergigante ♦ Nightshade Paolumu ♦ Odogaron ♦ Paolumu ♦ Pink Rathian ♦ Pukei-Pukei ♦ Radobaan ♦ Raging Brachydios ♦ Rajang ♦ Rathalos ♦ Rathian ♦ Ruiner Nergigante ♦ Safi'jiiva ♦ Savage Deviljho ♦ Scarred Yian Garuga ♦ Seething Bazelgeuse ♦ Shara Ishvalda ♦ Shrieking Legiana ♦ Silver Rathalos ♦ Stygian Zinogre ♦ Teostra ♦ Tigrex ♦ Tobi-Kadachi ♦ Tzitzi-Ya-Ku ♦ Uragaan ♦ Vaal Hazak ♦ Velkhana ♦ Viper Tobi-Kadachi ♦ Xeno'jiiva ♦ Yian Garuga ♦ Zinogre ♦ Zorah Magdaros |
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Honestly after i made a kjarr+Safi/ala set the EJ stopped being a threat entirely. Even as the threshold increased over the course of the fight I always got atleast one topple which is enough to make it livable with astera jerky or max potion. I guess it's kinda annoying you gotta make a set for it but honestly most really hard monsters do that anyway, the difference is alatreon really forces you to instead of letting you brute force it or employ the help of other players.
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it's alright,but annoying, because in order to beat EJ you have to farm entirely new set and weapon. and in my case I won't ever use it for anything other than killing Alatreon for fatalis? quest for the second time.
Also I don't understand why make weakened EJ deal that much damage. Why just not make it do like 90% of your health and not ~170%, sometimes if I time jerky incorrectly I will just die. Which feels really annoying as in order to not just die I had to destroy horns and pass dps check in the first place, so making it do less damage wouldn't really change anything except making it less annoying. Also on some attacks the damage is just nuts. Before killing it my last few tries just ended in me getting oneshoted by almost any elemental attack.
Overall Alatreon is 7/10, nothing impressive
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Lots of folk here arguing about al or fatalis being the more unfair fight.
Personal answer: they’re both challenges in their own right.
Hunts would be bland if it were always the same flavour of hitting things repeatedly till either there dead or you are
Since this is als page, I’ll put what I know. Hope it helps:
Al gives you a full timer to kill them, with quite a few easy to attack weak points. The main challenges with them is their dps check/nova, and their tendency to throw every single blight in the game at you, most importantly dragon blight. Note, you can get around this with lv3 blight negate, and then you’ve only got to worry about the dps check.
Attack the forelimbs and head for maximum effect on the elemental damage,and if there being awkward and flying cross country, try either flash pods or smoke bombs/ stealth mantle, both will cause them to land.
Try sticking to the same spot, running around regardless of where makes them more likely to start charging everywhere, and every second matters if you struggle with the topple. Note allot of there swinging attacks (claw swipe, head swipe) can be avoided by dodging towards them, providing an opening. If they start head banging, run, just run, don’t stop, just run, if you stop, you’ll likely explode. Metaphorically…
Most weapons can do the fight alright if you know them, though I imagine slow attacking weapons may struggle. (Bare in mind I’m a IG main who’s quite bad with everything else)
Speaking of which, If you too use the insect Glaive, then feel free to abuse the poor edge dragon with the Australian hornet whenever you’re worried about not meeting the topple. It does a surprising amount of elemental damage, and quite frankly, I’m pretty certain anyone would collapse onto the floor crying if they were stung in the face by one of those things 58 times
If using this tactic, Make sure you don’t neglect raw damage, once you get both horn breaks, you can’t prevent them from changing into your matching element, causing you to cart. Remember, head and arms, most other parts aren’t worth while damage wise. Unless your really fed up with them flying off, then break the wings
Sorry if that was unnecessarily long, may have went on a bit of a tangent. Hope it helped even slightly, and happy hunting:)
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Whoever coded the AI for this monster I hate you so ****ing much right now. Even with all the corect weapons, gear, strategies and skill you can die to a stun or this guy just deciding to ****ing fly all the time
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Unavoidable damage has to be the dumbest f*cking mechanic they could have ever put into this fight. Skill doesn't even matter. Either heal yourself as you take take it, or f*cking die. F*ck this damn monster. This was a horrible mechanic to put into this game.
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If you don't have kjarr weapons Just use Frostfang weapon with 2 piece Velkana and 3 Safi, hit his paws at fire stage and head at dragon stage you'll topple him 2 times goodluck
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Back in the days it was basicaly a nonstop power creep. Every new update brought a new meta upon us while you drowned in new events and mechanics to explore. It was a tsunami of work to handle. You could feel they wanted to get over with Iceborne and flushed everything they had left on ideas into the system. Ofcourse they had to come up with some "special mechanics" for this fight or it would have been another 4min kill for a random team. If you have left ice/flame Kjaar weapons, use them.
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I remember bringing an non-elemental hammer to fight this guy, ignoring the game warning since I always be able to get passed every quest somhow.
One of biggest mistake in my life, lol.
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You see now this a fun and challenging endgame fight. Not like Fatalis whos only justification to be "challenging" is to do a billion dmg and have hitboxes bigger then Zorah
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Each weapon class has a unique modifier for how much elemental damage it contributes to its topple. Some of these are out of wack, with HH and CB being able to deal WAY more elemental damage than "intended"
Use Savage Axe Kjarr Strongarm "Ice" and it topples like a LR Great Jagras due to how much elemental damage its forelimbs and head take, as each hit of Savage Axe deals full elemental damage.
While it's toppled, soften its head and pound on it. This'll help on the Dragon phase if you can pull off a Flinch Shot (especially airborne), or second topple. Breaking the horn forces it back into its previous phase after Eschaton Judgement instead of swapping, so you can skip the Ice phase entirely.
Just watch out, because there's no way to pull it off again if you've already broken both horns. You'll probably have to lose a cart; the Food Skills that prevent a death counter are invaluable.
Dawn of the Death Star (Ice version) has the same strategy, but you use Fire instead.
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Why don’t my comments go in?!?! I have been doing the stupid robot test. My thumbs up and down haven’t been working either. If this ends up going through can someone explain? Thanks of this works!
~ Eriatha
- Anonymous
I really love this fight. It's just like Punk Duck's MHW video, and every time you fight Alatreon, you subconsciously punish his openings. Although, I do wonder why they put Alatreon at a very low MR (24 lmao), but yeh, if you are attempting this fight, I do recommend getting 3 pieces Safi and either 2 pieces Gold Rathian (specifically her Coil and Chest for that juicy level 5 devine blessing) or you can go 5 pieces Safi.
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What makes a good boss fight design? Let's see.
Malenia, from Elden Ring, has a "one shot" move that can easily kill any player if you get fully hit by her waterfowl dance,,, but it's an attack that anyone can avoid by getting gud, you can use any build, you have to learn the boss to avoid her "instakill move" which it's awesome, because you don't need to farm an specific setup just to beat a boss, you can even beat her at lvl 1
Now.. let's see Alatreon, if you don't have a very specific setup, you will get hit by his supernova attack which most likely will insta kill you and you can't do anything to avoid it... there's nothing to learn here because the damage is unavoidable, so "getting gud" here it's not a thing, and using an absurd amount of your time to farm the best weapon and armor just to survive his supernova it doesn't makes you a skilled player either, because if you try to use anything else, you will die no matter how good you are. So yeah, Alatreon it's just a garbage boss with artificial difficulty.
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full safi armour is game-changing; got me my second slay and a realisation that I actually really like this fight
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I love the noises it makes, some of them remind me a little bit of Giratina
- Anonymous
So here is a question. Why do people hate him? I know you guys are going to say the nova and that it forces you to fight in a specific way but it’s a black dragon
that is the symbol of destruction! Of course you have to fight him in a specific way! And it’s not that’s bad! You can still beat him without the elemental (although it is very hard) but it’s still possible. Personally I love the fight. It’s is one of my favorites if not my favorite!
And who ever said you can’t take your favorite weapon? You still can!
~ Eriatha
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I managed to craft his charge blade and upgrade it without even killing him. get scammed bozo
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Ok I am back to help some more about farming him if you don’t have events. I have finally broken the wings. To do that you need to ALWAYS have them softened. When you get the elemental topple go for the wings. If you where using the LS like me then if you can do a red gauge helm when he is toppled. Usually you have to walk slam him to break the wings. I don’t know why or how it works but it does. The tail is way easier. Just keep it softened and hit it often and it will break at some point. I think that is all I have to say. Happy hunting and don’t give up!!
~ Eriatha
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Hey I just wanted to give some tips for farming him I if you can’t do events(like me). So let’s start with what I use:So usually I am a DB main. Not for this quest. Here used the LS. Specifically Aspara Glacia. I would go with the Frostfang Barioth one but like I said I can’t do events.I think the insect glaive does well too. For armor I used Rimgaurd Head chest waist and legs. I used Hoarcy gauntlets(I was to lazy to farm for the Velkhana crystal). The skills I used where these:
Ice attack lvl6
Health boost lvl3
Fortitude
Divine Blessing lvl3
I don’t really remember the other skills because they where lvl1. Always take Temporal mantel and health booster. Make your cat take the plunder blade. ALWAYS!!!!!!!!! I took my cat with zinogre but that’s probably a bad choice. Now to the tips:
1 When you start put on the Temporal mantle and hit him as much as you can. You will always try to get that elemental topple. Remember the objective is to farm not kill him. If you kill him you will lose the ability to fight him if you don’t have events.
2 Once you have toppled him try to start breaking the tail or wings.(I still haven’t actually broken the wings)
3 Once he goes into Dragon mode ALWAYS go for the horns. You really don’t want him going into Ice mode. Usually walk slamming him is a good tactic.
4 Once he does the Nova you should place down the Health Booster. Always have a Max potion at hand to survive.
For the most part you just repeat this. Remember. You are just trying to survive. You WILL be guaranteed to lose. Once you have farmed him enough maje the Alatreon chest plate and helmet. After I did this I went with these skills:
Evade window lvl2
Speed Eating lvl1
Dragon Resistance lvl2
Ice attack lvl6
Health boost lvl3
Resentment lvl4
And a few others. When you eat you are always going with +50 to health. If you can find one meal that does that with increased elemental resistance that is perfect. I am still having trouble trying to break the wings. If you guys have any tips I will gladly take them!! I think that is all I have to say right now. Good luck and hoped this helped!! Happy Hunting!
~ Eriatha
- Anonymous
So if you beat Blazing Black Twilight are you able to repeat the quest? See I want to know since I cant do events and I was wondering if I needed to continue grinding with the Plunderblade to get his armor/weapons.
- Anonymous
I know a lot of people don't like this guy but he's probably my favorite fight so far as a solo player, Fatalis is the last thing I have left.
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What is a good pair of dual blades to use (I can’t play events so don’t mention them)
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If you use the fatalis full set with a meta aquashot sticky build you can actually take this thing down within 15 minutes... Sadly you will need to take the Nova's to the face... Sorry it is what it is but look on the bright side it's very easy to break both horns with the aquashot sticky 3.
- Anonymous
So he does high damage right? Would defense or elemental resistance be better for damage reduction?
- Anonymous
this fight is scripted
every single time, 100% of the time, when I claw to his head he does the attack where he summons lightning bolts cancelling the temporal mantle if I am on his head
I even waited for him to do this attack once and claw immediately after and he does it twice in the row
wtf!
he never did it twice when I wasn't clawing onto him
I tested it and started the fight 7 times doing the same thing mantle then claw to his head after dodging the fire attack/charge forward and he used lightning attack the second I claw onto him 7 times in a row even if I time it differently
and how in the world do I break his horns if he's constantly flying away from me, in the air or turns his back to me? I only have SO many flashpods with me
how do I fight this trash if I can't smack him and he's scripted to prevent tenderizing and wall banging?
on the other hand toppling him is so easy I forgot he has this escaton judgement gimmick which is just a chance to buff since you don't get to in the beginning of the quest lol what great design go run into a corner and eat a jerky
this fight is the definition of artificial difficulty
even capcom realizes that because they added a quest where they heavily nerfed him so that people can go fight fatalis, which is an infinitely more fun and fair monster to fight
ffs he doesn't even get his own arena or an explanation beyond lol alatreon is here go murder him which is all you need this is just a throwaway placeholder before the REAL fight that is fatalis
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I was an anon that posted here that failed many times and complained about the mechanics of the fight. However today a beat him in 24 minutes using a GS which I had not used since before the expansion.
I failed my core principle that got me through MHW "Always trust the ungabunga" . I tried several meta sets like Kjar ice Dual blades and other sets used by civilised players and failed a total of 36 times. Today I beat with level 10 rimeguard armor and played horribly as I usually do but with the power of ungabunga which I rejected, I beat him in a good time by my standards.
Always trust the ungabunga! It will never fail you hunters!
- Anonymous
Only bad thing I can say is despite breaking both his horns Alatreon still switches to ice/fire. That is the only difficult part preventing me from beating him. I got real close today and his moves are easier to telegraph and I get 2 topples easily, I'll beat him one day.
- Anonymous
Alatreon is a tough fight (arguably rightfully so as he is one of the two "endgame" monsters). Playing greatsword, I struggled a lot with my first clear but now consider alatreon my favorite fight. Here are some brief tips for those having trouble (some will be specific for greatsword).
- preface: Solo is recommended for your first playthrough as missing the damage check will not end in an instant failure. In my experience, I would estimate about 6/10 - 8/10 alatreon SOSs end in failure, but some succeed. At the end of the day, it's a game. If you want to SOS, fire it off.
1. Weapon and Food
- Use an ice weapon for any alatreon mission NOT called "dawn of the deathstar". This will give you the best chance for elemental topples. Blast and other status ailments will NOT help you reach the elemental DPS check
- Safeguard is always a nice food choice if carting is a concern.
- Moxie is another solid choice and can be paired with elemental defense up large. (however if the ground it on fire, the benefit can be negated)
- Felyne riser is another good choice (increase invulnerability window when getting up from knock down). Can be combined with felyne medic.
2. Some useful Items:
- NULLBERRIES. Bring 10 and preferably save for dragonblight since you wont to elemental damage with dragonblight.
- Ancient Potions. Great for a quick max heal and have the supplies for 10 more with 10 immunizers and 10 kelbi horns
- If concerned about getting caught sharpening, Whetfish Fin+ sharpen you in 1 stroke and can easily be obtained through the event "A fish to whet your appetite". (ghille mantle + capture net = easy fish)
- Mega-armorskin/demondrug
3. Armor skills and Mantles
- Health boost 3. 50 extra HP can easily be the difference between life and death. (personally consider this almost mandatory)
- Evade window 3. Can be great for dodging certain attacks and repositioning (however not 100% necessary if don't have the decos)
- Blight Resistance can be useful, but nullberries can also get the job done instead
- Fortify can pair nicely with safeguard, and the extra defense can be a nice boost
- (early-midgame) Greatsword users: Rimeguard Beta helm, chest, waist, legs; damascus beta arms; focus 2 (or higher charm) with glacial demon can work as a nice frostcraft crit draw build.
- Temporal "can" be a good choice when grappling BUT do NOT grapple the head when alatreon is doing any lightning attack
- Personally a fan of Dragon mantle if dragonblight is an issue
- rocksteady "can" be good but can also be a deathtrap. Use with care.
4. The Fight
- Enrage to increase amount of elemental (and raw damage) that alatreon takes.
- One possible opening: Temporal on, grapple face when safe, 3 claw attacks + weapon attack or 5 claw attacks
- If having trouble with elemental DPS check, focus forearms. Hindlegs are next best option. (Focus head for horn break in dragon mode)
-**Lightning strike attack: when alatreon winds up to summon several lightning strikes at once, watch the static in around him. If the static is moving towards him the strikes will begin far away and move towards him. If the static is moving away from him, the strike begin close to his body.
- THE GROUND IS YOUR FRIEND. Alatreon loves to combo you, SO if you get knocked to the ground, it is often better to lay there for a moment to decide how to respond to his next move.
- If things have gone according to plan, Alatreon has been toppled at least once, has had a horn broken, and is now about to escaton judgement. This may seem counter intuitive, but when you see him starting to escaton, RUN TO HIM. The damage is going to be the same across the entire field so if you set up under him, you can get free damage in when he lands. (If properly timed with a greatsword, this can mean a TCS)
- Rinse and repeat until victorious
I'm sure I'm forgetting some important points, but I hope that this overview has been helpful to anyone struggling with the fight. Best of luck!
- Anonymous
'sup, fellow hunters! Just soloed my first Alatreon today, took me a few tries, a couple of different weapons but I've finally got Alan with my weebstick. Now, let me share with you fellas a few tips, for starters: go solo. Yeah, it's pretty obvious but who knows? Maybe someone out there will try to kill this bad boy with randoms, anyway, don't do it, for the love of whatever deity you believe in: go. solo. Alan may seem a little terrifying when you're on your own but don't fret, he's a tough cookie but there's worse out there (looking at ya, Fatty), well, where were we again? Yes, defeating Alan. Equip yourself with as much Critical Eye as you can for dem sweet critical hits and Critical Boost for a... boost (sorry, I couldn't help myself). Agitator is good too, since Alan is pissed during most part of the battle, don't even bother with max attack, boost it to lv.4 and you're good to go. If you're a scrub like me and get hit often, bring Temporal Mantle, equip Tool Specialist so you can use it more frequently, oh, Health Regen in your weapon is a nice bonus, it can save you in a bind. Give your cat the Vigorwasp, it can revive you once if Alan kills you. If you can't hit the 20 points of Dragon Resistance, don't worry, just bring a few nullberries aaaaaand problem solved. Well, it's not as good as not having to worry about dragonblight at all but hey, better than nothing! And last but not least, Ice/Fire Attack, depending on what version of Alan you'll be facing. Once you're ready, go to town.
Try not to think much about the timer, it'll only get you killed faster, take your time, dodge and try to floor Alan when you get the chance, he screeches after an elemental attack, grab him by the face and yeet him to the floor, if you can't pull off a Flinch Shot, use the Temporal Mantle and send his crashing down. It's not easy to pass the DPS check but it's not that nightmarish either and even if you fail, it is not nearly as bad as it is when you fail with a team, you'll be sent back to camp and get another chance to kill Alan. If he changes to the element you're currently equiped with, it's okay, it won't be long until he shifts again, you'll only have less time to prevent his full-power Escargot Judgement but you still can catch up if you push a little harder, go for it if you think you can do it. If Alan takes his sweet time flying around, use a Smoke Bomb, once he loses sight of you, he'll land after a few seconds and you can resume the battle. Don't be shy about using your healing items, if you're in danger, use it, you'll likely cart anyway, or not, depending on how good you are, but if you can solo this battle without carting, you probably don't even need my help in the first place.
I cleared Alan's boss battle within 25 minutes, it's not that impressive but I got it anyways... now, on to craft me some weapons. ~♫
Good luck and happy hunting!
- Anonymous
Have 500+ hours of MHW, soloed every mother****er this game trhrew at me. Alatreon and Fatalis just sucked all of the joy of the game for me and made me quit. Just not fun to solo. No, i dont have ps+ :/
- Anonymous
For the last time
Please and i mean please don't bring raging brachy or alatreon weapons to a blazing black twilight. I have seen too many dark claw demises in my alatreon hunts.
- Anonymous
- Anonymous
I dunno why my comment got deleted, all i said was that Alatreon and Fatalis are not fun to solo :/
To all the hammer mains disappointed about their low elemental damage, don’t fret. You can have your comfort armor but replace the helmet with a velkhana headpiece, even better if its the AT one. This will give you coalescence which is super useful. Then you can slot in frost/blaze jewels for that max ice/fire attack boost. What I really recommend is farming Safijiiva dracolites and getting a Safi Frostcrusher/Hellcrusher. You can then awaken it by using One velkhana divinity and the rest all element up. If u max it all up, you should have 900 plus ice/fire dmg. Why have the velkhana divinity? Because you have the Velkhana headpiece, you can activate the velkhana divinity bonus skill and get very good elemental damage when you critical. Memorise his moveset and learn about his openings after each attack, and you can finally topple alatreon and beat him up. You can easily break his horns with the hammer. btw u can always use any fire/ice weapon as long as the element is above 800, but if ur dps is not fast enough try to aim for 900. good luck, unga bunga mains! -sincerely from a bonker main
- Anonymous
eat for safeguard, its much easier to brute force it if you dont mind carting at least once
- Anonymous
Do I neeeeed to wear armour when fighting him??.. I broke his horn and I still died to escaton judgement
- Anonymous
Finally I can farm him with my Velkhana Gamma armor and my Safi Weapons. I need his LBG
- Anonymous
1. Bring Temporal and Rocksteady Mantle. BRING AN ICE WEAPON!!! Use Rocksteady for Fire mode and Temporal for Dragon Mode to flinch shot. Take off your mantle as SOON AS IT RUNS OUT.
2. Bring materials to craft max potions mid fight in case you run out of healing.
2. Do not flinch shot it until it's in Dragon Mode. Don't try to flinch shot when it's standing on the ground, it's too inconsistent, use temporal mantle to flinch shot it while it's flying. Focus on breaking the horn in dragon mode, best opportunity is after a flinch shot.
3. Use fast and multi hitting attacks to pass the DPS check. The best opportunity to attack is during lightning attacks. Make sure you dodge first though if it's targetting you with the line attacks.
4. During Eschaton Judgement eat Astera Jerky. Don't eat it too late, eat it about a second after the attack starts and eat another one when it's over to recover most of your HP.
5. Don't forget to restock all your healing items and bring dust if you do get carted.
6. Bring Blast Resistance 3 if you can. If you have dragonblight you STOP DOING ELEMENTAL DAMAGE. Or bring Coalescence to gain a strong elemental damage buff whenever you recover from a blight.
This fight was easier, better and more fun in MH3U, it could be stunned fairly easily, it could get it's horns stuck in a couple walls (like diablos) and breaking it's horn actually hindered it since there was no dps (to my recollection). I learned hammer entirely in that game from just fighting it and I was GS main back then until Alateron. Now it just feels awful to fight, and maining lance doesn't help. I wish they brought Dire Miralis back instead of this but we already have one walking volcano, I guess two is one too many for capcom. Jhen Moran would've been cool to have too (it even has a subspieces, but it's second phase is just kinda a punching bag), but alas they took a great fight and made it feel like utter poo.
- Anonymous
Broke both of his horns with my Frostfang Barioth GS pretty quick. After seeing how much health he has I don't think I was even close...
- Anonymous
Say what you want about him but mf has the best quest names. ****ing Dawn of the Death Star and The Evening Star, Blazing Black Twilight, and Dawns Truimph.
- Anonymous
The monster that made me drop mhw..
I just can not stomach all the annoying mechanics in this fight.
Elemental blights of all kinds, a one shot if an invisible elemental dps check is not met, which in and of itself made elemental builds mandatory..constant flying, constant AoE spam..
The entire fight is just too cancerous to be bothered with.
- Anonymous
- Anonymous
I just solo'd him today with Frostcraft Greatsword! What an incredible fight. It was so awesome and relieving seeing the camera pan around the slain Alatreon because I couldn't weaken the next escaton judgement; it had switched the the element of my weapon. 10/10 would play again.
- Anonymous
As much as I appreciate a challenge too much of the fight is cheap rather than challenging. Drops you in so you have to waste time buffing, only 2 or 3 actual walls to slam AL against, a backstep move, area sweep attacks and chaining moves that make his head a danger zone to clutch to plus flies. Escation Judgement is reasonable in comparison to all this. Though frankly the only two things I have extreme resentment for is the lack of "real" walls in the arena and the backstep fireball.
- Anonymous
other than db all weapons suck too low raw damage, such a cool monster to solo :(
- Anonymous
Thumbs up if you think Alatreon looks better or thumbs it down if you think Kulve looks better. Know time to thumbs down my own comment…
- Anonymous
i can never get the direwings, if anyone can help, can you reply?
- Anonymous
I've seen a few people say it's not sensible to try with a GS
I've failed a lot until now, but with the Taroth Blaze Thunder fully upgraded with Elem up and Bolt gems, I beat it by accident just now.
1000 thunder damage, baby
- Anonymous
Ok this might sound pathetic but I keep losing to the quest Dawns Triumph. I wreck the things health but he hits really hard. Can you guys give me some tips. I am wearing Shara armor and I am a LS main. I also use the IG SA and CB.
- Anonymous
Ёбаный элементальный дпс чек с конченной механикой. Фаталис легче этого куска говна.
- Anonymous
O dragon of the elements
See the Hunters pitch their tents
A battle had begun
A time of forever done
If this fight is lost
Hunters blow your horns
Hone your blades and release your arrows!
~M&S
- Anonymous
The run should be perfect. Kill him before the third eschaton breaking both horns and get it over with in sub 20 min... or be a scrub and use dragon element and fight him for 30 minutes without breaking a single horn, while loudly proclaiming how ‘easy’ he is on forums.
- Anonymous
i don't care about skills and attacks and other bullcrap, i just wanna fight this thing so bad but ruiner nergigante's being an ******* to me
I would recommend only fighting solo or duo it is way easier, break the horns, and take him to pound town.
- Anonymous
What are some good LS builds for alatreon, I tried dark claw demise but that was doodoo
- Anonymous
Any tips on a good dps build with an insect glaive? Tryna solo this and im not getting anywhere.
- Anonymous
- Anonymous
Yes finally i killedhim with my velkhana insevt glaive and send help bcs i did the dawn's triumph alatreon ;-;
- Anonymous
just realized the wiki is edited by scrubs. so much scrub info
- Anonymous
Now after 6 solo tries I still fail this quest but I broke its first horn within 4 minutes! I am using longsword so my strategy is primarily perfect iai spirit slash timing. My goal is not to play safe, rather I need to counter all his attacks and maximize elemental/ raw dps. The only way to kill this solo is by speedrunning it.
- Anonymous
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I told myself I'll solo him , since I have a sort of rivalry with him from 3U.
The first few times I tried, I failed utterly, mostly because it took me a while to realise my safi-resentment set didn't work, because of my health regen augment.
Switched my armour to an agitator build, had 560 Element with IG.
Killed him first try with that set, 23minutes, was far from a perfect run, could definetly shave the time down by 2-3 minutes.
I really like what they did with the fight, I'm one of the few people who has nothing against the Escaton Judgement, and even though you can argue it's "fake" difficulty, I still enjoy more of a challenge. With my set, I toppled him in 2 minutes, and then proceeded to bully him to the ground. I really think they did him well, the weapons could've been more diverse though.
- Anonymous
- Anonymous
Made it (the short one, but still). Switched to support for this fight (lancer primary, to fast for me yet). Kulve Taroth + Frostfanng Barioth SnS.
But to be honest - Raging Brachy was way more harder, maybe because he is the first of an end game challenge.
Good luck to everyone!
- Anonymous
so glad they didn't bring back skypiercer from 3 ultimate had to break both horns for a CHANCE TO GET IT AND YOU NEEDED IT TO MAKE EVERY ALATREON WEAPON OR ARMOR while skyswayer is better its not that much better you still need to break the horn like your going to get a chance to go for the head
- Anonymous
Man, this guide is really laying out all the helpful tips and tricks right down to weapon match ups. I wish all of the pages were like this, but I guess it would be pretty demanding to emulate this for every minor monster fight.
- Anonymous
Love a supernova that you can't survive. What an amazing job the developers did
- Anonymous
Feel kinda bad for the guy. first got beaten up by Fatalis and retreated with only 30% of his health left, and in "Dawn Triumphs" we just come in and finish him off. btw can anybody confirm this is true? I heard that Alatreon was weak because Fatalis beat him up badly but can anyone clarify?
- Anonymous
Why is he not called a black dragon D: Also are these the official monster hunter wikis
- Anonymous
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- Anonymous
finally solo's the bastard and not the reddit mode one either Im talking ACTUAL alatreon. Damn I feel good I just wanted to share even though most won't find it impressive.
- Anonymous
I’ve tested this btw, you can wear a vitality mantle and survive his supernova while he is NOT weakened as long as you drink a mega potion and have close to max health
- Anonymous
people still think oroshi kirin is coming but i dont think so. we got fatalis instaed.
- Anonymous
“The Damage the Attack deals is dependant on how many times Alatreon has been KO'd due to elemental damage prior to the supernova” what does KO’d mean here? what visual cue am I looking for?
- Anonymous
Freaking impossible with Switch Axe, I tried 10+ times with it to no avail. Got him 3rd try with sword and shield
- Anonymous
I don’t know why but in case your wondering you can get riptalons from flinch shots probably useless now but I don’t know
- Anonymous
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Does anyone know how much elemental damage has to be done solo to KO this beauty to weaken the nova?
- Anonymous
I solo'd this bastard now i'm going for it's armour ready for fatalis...currently donning Stygian//Tigrex with max heath charm - managed to get 2 azure dragonspires, one from carve and one from 4x cart part break (1st horn).
Literally Fatalis is my favourite monster i'm hyped to had unlocked him solo but. i'm telling you all now, be ready for the fatalis as even with maxed out armour, he can still OHTK cart you
- Anonymous
- Anonymous
needs an electric, dragon and, water special move but lets be honest waterblight is kinda lame
- Anonymous
hunter. ''I have 5 billion defense armor.''
alatreon. ''you are already dead''
hunter. ''nani. *faints*
Game. ''quest failed''
- Anonymous
**** this monster with a rusty sword. just download PC cheats and use cheat weapons in Public to help people cause **** WHOEVER SAID "lets add this **** of a monster"
- Anonymous
Git gud. If you cant hack it you clearly arnt good enough. Go fight the easier baby monsters lol
- Anonymous
Alatreon no longer has the highest hp of all single player monsters it's now fatalis
After about one year trying and quitting the game twice, I've finally killed alatreon.
Firstly, you DON'T NEED Safi's set, I killed it with only a kjarr weapon (lance w/ 700 ice dmg), although it would surely make surviving EJ easier. After I got gud I could topple him at least twice in the entire fight. Using health booster makes it easier to survive EJ after toppling.
Use felyne safeguard and all the buffs you can. You're gonna need it.
If you die to EJ and didn't break a horn, you have a chance to change your weapon to counter alatreon's next element.
I choose the lance despite its poor damage output because with guard up and max guard skill you can block any attack with only chip damage (can still die to chip damage if you're not carefull tho, having the healthsteal augment greatly helps) and learning when to counter gave me way more chances to deal damage. Also the lance's pinpoint attacks made it way easier to focus the head, meaning I only had to soften the head and was quite easy to break the horns.
It's perfectly reasonable to feel like quitting, but keep this in mind: if you quit now, two months later the fact that you failed will keep nagging you until you come back.
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