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Holy hell, I didn't pay attention at first since I just try to outdamage his head everytime I farm him. But Alatreon could still switch back and forth from Ice to Dragon to Fire, even if you break BOTH of his horn. What an asinine mechanic because it bypassed itself, cr4pcom!

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The issue I'm having with a kjarr ice setup is that if I miss a horn break, it makes the next two phases an uphill battle where I'm trying to contain the element solely during dragon phase AND *avoid* breaking the horns. This is a MASSIVE window of time where I'm doing horribly subpar elemental damage because of the mismatch in the ice phase, and should I run out of healing items or make a dumb mistake and cart once, results in a nearly guaranteed double cart from a judgement that occurs shortly after reentry.

I am willing to learn these mechanics and the moveset, but my only gripe is our complete and utter helplessness to adjust for any mistakes in handling the mechanics, even if we know what we'd need to do to fix it, other than to wait and pray he's not agitated during the dragon phase. Negating over half of your *mechanically necessary* elemental damage on an ice/fire build for another two whole phase changes because they refuse to let you adjust elements is an absurd punishment.

I think they should have simply allowed us to farcaster back to camp in one version of the quest (instead of removing over half it's health), and added a reprised version with no camp breaks/farcasters that rewards ticket materials for the layered armor, or another narrowly not nude set, or an actual girlfriend, or whatever. Cry skill issue as much as you want. I don't care. Fatalis isn't this unforgiving.

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Shieldspire Palico is amazing if you're trying to solo for the first time. Could save from dangerous carts.

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Ok so I'm ****ing stupid and nothing is telling me what element to use. Can I get a "Alatreon for Dummies" where it's purely just
"Quest A = Fire weapon
Quest B = Ice weapon"
but for all Alatreon quests

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Got beaten by Eschaton, but I sent out an sos and two people joined before going in to fight. Shortly after Alatreon is dead. The quest took about 6 minutes

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Just saw a video with someone beating it with a blast weapon its possible

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Idk why people always talk about the DPS check. The DPS check is not the problem, the problem is Alatreon two shots you even when your HP is maxed out.

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i had no problem beating him, first try while my baby screamed in my ear

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Yo every comment with a fresh date can be totally neglected.
These noobs come here flaming about the fight, it's very funny.

Alatreon is a superb skill check fight, where there is no middleground. You either complete the DPS check, or you cart. Thats it. Playing solo you have more than enough tries.

I personally defeated him with a Dragon element Weapon (worst kind of element/ his own weapon) that i got from my 5-10 attempts failing to beat him. And with that i managed to beat him easily.

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Worst fight in Iceborne period. Especially being right in between Raging Brachydios and Fatalis, two of the best fight in the game, it does not make Alatreon look good.

Forcing you to use bad weapons is such a terrible design choice, considering not all elemental weapons are treated equally, especially between different weapon classes.
This only makes the fight prolong even more, increasing the odds of messing up in containing its power or breaking the horns.

So basically, farm for Kjarr dual blades or get f*cked.

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Very lazy attack pattern design, making a monster that size, move at lightning speed... It should be creating a sonic boom every times it swoops! It's the no.1 criticism that the 'Souls' series gets: It's only M. O. for boss difficult is cranking their attacks up to unrealistic speeds. Then, you have all the elemental mess, and the fact that the MHW monsters read player inputs (fighting three other players off in the distance > HBG goes to reload > turns and insta-attacks HBG user), making it wholly frustrating and utterly unrewarding to fight / beat. The pre-dumb-down Behemoth was a better design, where it required team work to take down. Alatreon, on the other hand, is just typical, half-assed, end-of-support content thrown in and left for whoever wants to deal with it.

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Im about to give up on this fight. I have kjarr weapon (ice) sword and shield. I have managed to break his horn twice sometimes yet, devs thought it would be a good idea to let him keep switching elements even with horns dead. As for some reason, I have very little damage, can only target his back legs and pray to not get hit and stunned but I cant beat him since his HP is so huge and my attack numbers are around 150 at best.

And before someone asks, yes, I can pass dps check easily but fight drags on and he switchs and little mistakes from my part cost me the run. I certainly don't know what else I can do. I try to clutch claw and he throws me all the time.

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what do elder dragon status (Dragonblight and dragon elemet) on aleteon? (it goes more weal to ice/fire? or someting)
(like theostra, lunastra , kushara... stop him auras)

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i dont know how alatreon mechanic are. Alatreon start with ice so im using fire weapon, then he switch to dragon state so i just broke his horn and pass his ele dps, but after escaton he just switch to ice. i dont understand. Did i need to break the horn everytime or just one time at start?

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BS. absolute BS. I was at full health and one of it's WEAK attacks nearly carted me. I have 914 defense btw

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For me I like how telegraphed his movement & attack, its just his damn DPS check thats so damn annoying...

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Would be a 9/10 fight but, I think EJ is a bad mechanic, so I’ll give it a 7.5/10

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I may be a girl, but i can be mean too!!

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NO CUSSING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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i swear fighting double furious rajang was far more bearable than this fkn dragoon

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If you skip Safi, yes, Alatreon's mechanic is annoying, but if you transition into Safi first, you can naturally farm several elemental builds, then you will have the tools to properly fight Alatreon. Personally I'm loving this progression.

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While figuring out this fight with insect glaive, while getting some materials in the process (without Safi/Kjarr), I noticed something possibly interesting. Initially, I was only able to get mantles, riptalons, skyswayers and occasionally a tail during an attempt. Plunderblade opened the way to getting pallium as well, but up till then, wings never ended up broken despite many passes over his back. After specifically targeting the wings with dropped thorn pods, however, the wings broke for me for the first time. When after direwings specifically, this might increase the odds in your favour. I'm going to give it a try in my next attempts, at least.

Azure Dragonspphires are still rare occurences, though, but that can be fixed through melding, however unsatisfying that is. ;) Is it just me, or is this material completely missing from the Alatreon page?

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I plan on fighting him soon. Does anyone have any tips for a Gunlance player? The page recommends full melee, which makes sense due to the need for elemental damage. I figured I was gonna have to do a lot of SlapLancing, but are there any other tips, or is it kinda hopeless? Should I just swap off to my Dual Blades or is there hope for me to beat Alatreon with Gunlance? If possible, I'd rather stick to my beloved GL.

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Capcom really likes making awful dps check fights, we have Kulve and Alatreon. Kulve was bearable since she didn't have a move that literally one shots you and is also unavoidable. If Alatreon can use one shot moves then giving him a taste of his own medicine with cheats doesn't sound entirely uncalled for. I'm not gonna use them of course, it ruins the whole point of the game.

Don't get me wrong, Alatreon is a really fun fight but Escaton Judment single handedly ruined it. if that move is like Safi's pin attack where you're left with 1 hp and fireblight then it is reasonable fair since blight resistance can counter the fireblight but no, Capcom had to make it instantly kill you unless you topple him.

I know he's an endgame boss which is supposed to be hard but an unavoidable insta kill move is more annoying than hard. Capcom, please never do these unavoidable insta kill moves ever again. Safi has 2 insta kill moves and they're both survivable which is why I don't want to strangle Safi everytime he does his nuke, can't say the same for Alatreon.

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Even tho you need a lot of elemental damage for it, using greatsword is actually super easy on him, his lightning and a few other moves can be punished with a full TCS.

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also, for melee weapons: don't bother tenderising the head, it only increases the hzv by 3 which really is **** all, prioritise tenderising his arms instead

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The horns take no part break damage at all when he's not dragon active, so there isn't much point to focus his head while he's ice/fire active. His arms also has higher elemental hzvs so it makes more sense to focus them while he's not dragon active in order to meet the dps check. I was originally under the impression that the horns would accumulate part break damage during the first phase and hitting it will make it easier to break when he's in his 2nd phase, this put me in more dangerous positions as you're way more likely to be hit by his **** if you are close to his head.

While he's toppled due to the elemental damage threshold being met (handler says you're doing a good job containing alatreons power), he no longer has an active element so his horns again won't receive any damage, even if he was toppled while dragon active, and this is reflected in the first bit of his hzv chart, so feel free to go for a tail cut or wing break if you don't think you need that extra damage from hitting the head.

Non of this was made clear by the game which is quite shitty tbh and the whole horn break and dps check requirement felt bullshit, but I hope this information helped cuz it defo made the difference for me. Shoutout to reddit for the info

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w h y .

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I honestly find this fight challenging yet fun, i haven't beaten it yet and still learning new ways to fight it, though i will say it made me more sharp at dodging attacks

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After about one year trying and quitting the game twice, I've finally killed alatreon.

Firstly, you DON'T NEED Safi's set, I killed it with only a kjarr weapon (lance w/ 700 ice dmg), although it would surely make surviving EJ easier. After I got gud I could topple him at least twice in the entire fight. Using health booster makes it easier to survive EJ after toppling.

Use felyne safeguard and all the buffs you can. You're gonna need it.

If you die to EJ and didn't break a horn, you have a chance to change your weapon to counter alatreon's next element.

I choose the lance despite its poor damage output because with guard up and max guard skill you can block any attack with only chip damage (can still die to chip damage if you're not carefull tho, having the healthsteal augment greatly helps) and learning when to counter gave me way more chances to deal damage. Also the lance's pinpoint attacks made it way easier to focus the head, meaning I only had to soften the head and was quite easy to break the horns.

It's perfectly reasonable to feel like quitting, but keep this in mind: if you quit now, two months later the fact that you failed will keep nagging you until you come back.

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Honestly after i made a kjarr+Safi/ala set the EJ stopped being a threat entirely. Even as the threshold increased over the course of the fight I always got atleast one topple which is enough to make it livable with astera jerky or max potion. I guess it's kinda annoying you gotta make a set for it but honestly most really hard monsters do that anyway, the difference is alatreon really forces you to instead of letting you brute force it or employ the help of other players.

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it's alright,but annoying, because in order to beat EJ you have to farm entirely new set and weapon. and in my case I won't ever use it for anything other than killing Alatreon for fatalis? quest for the second time.
Also I don't understand why make weakened EJ deal that much damage. Why just not make it do like 90% of your health and not ~170%, sometimes if I time jerky incorrectly I will just die. Which feels really annoying as in order to not just die I had to destroy horns and pass dps check in the first place, so making it do less damage wouldn't really change anything except making it less annoying. Also on some attacks the damage is just nuts. Before killing it my last few tries just ended in me getting oneshoted by almost any elemental attack.
Overall Alatreon is 7/10, nothing impressive

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Lots of folk here arguing about al or fatalis being the more unfair fight.
Personal answer: they’re both challenges in their own right.
Hunts would be bland if it were always the same flavour of hitting things repeatedly till either there dead or you are

Since this is als page, I’ll put what I know. Hope it helps:

Al gives you a full timer to kill them, with quite a few easy to attack weak points. The main challenges with them is their dps check/nova, and their tendency to throw every single blight in the game at you, most importantly dragon blight. Note, you can get around this with lv3 blight negate, and then you’ve only got to worry about the dps check.

Attack the forelimbs and head for maximum effect on the elemental damage,and if there being awkward and flying cross country, try either flash pods or smoke bombs/ stealth mantle, both will cause them to land.

Try sticking to the same spot, running around regardless of where makes them more likely to start charging everywhere, and every second matters if you struggle with the topple. Note allot of there swinging attacks (claw swipe, head swipe) can be avoided by dodging towards them, providing an opening. If they start head banging, run, just run, don’t stop, just run, if you stop, you’ll likely explode. Metaphorically…

Most weapons can do the fight alright if you know them, though I imagine slow attacking weapons may struggle. (Bare in mind I’m a IG main who’s quite bad with everything else)

Speaking of which, If you too use the insect Glaive, then feel free to abuse the poor edge dragon with the Australian hornet whenever you’re worried about not meeting the topple. It does a surprising amount of elemental damage, and quite frankly, I’m pretty certain anyone would collapse onto the floor crying if they were stung in the face by one of those things 58 times

If using this tactic, Make sure you don’t neglect raw damage, once you get both horn breaks, you can’t prevent them from changing into your matching element, causing you to cart. Remember, head and arms, most other parts aren’t worth while damage wise. Unless your really fed up with them flying off, then break the wings

Sorry if that was unnecessarily long, may have went on a bit of a tangent. Hope it helped even slightly, and happy hunting:)

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Whoever coded the AI for this monster I hate you so ****ing much right now. Even with all the corect weapons, gear, strategies and skill you can die to a stun or this guy just deciding to ****ing fly all the time

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Unavoidable damage has to be the dumbest f*cking mechanic they could have ever put into this fight. Skill doesn't even matter. Either heal yourself as you take take it, or f*cking die. F*ck this damn monster. This was a horrible mechanic to put into this game.

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If you don't have kjarr weapons Just use Frostfang weapon with 2 piece Velkana and 3 Safi, hit his paws at fire stage and head at dragon stage you'll topple him 2 times goodluck

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Back in the days it was basicaly a nonstop power creep. Every new update brought a new meta upon us while you drowned in new events and mechanics to explore. It was a tsunami of work to handle. You could feel they wanted to get over with Iceborne and flushed everything they had left on ideas into the system. Ofcourse they had to come up with some "special mechanics" for this fight or it would have been another 4min kill for a random team. If you have left ice/flame Kjaar weapons, use them.

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I remember bringing an non-elemental hammer to fight this guy, ignoring the game warning since I always be able to get passed every quest somhow.

One of biggest mistake in my life, lol.

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You see now this a fun and challenging endgame fight. Not like Fatalis whos only justification to be "challenging" is to do a billion dmg and have hitboxes bigger then Zorah

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Each weapon class has a unique modifier for how much elemental damage it contributes to its topple. Some of these are out of wack, with HH and CB being able to deal WAY more elemental damage than "intended"
Use Savage Axe Kjarr Strongarm "Ice" and it topples like a LR Great Jagras due to how much elemental damage its forelimbs and head take, as each hit of Savage Axe deals full elemental damage.

While it's toppled, soften its head and pound on it. This'll help on the Dragon phase if you can pull off a Flinch Shot (especially airborne), or second topple. Breaking the horn forces it back into its previous phase after Eschaton Judgement instead of swapping, so you can skip the Ice phase entirely.

Just watch out, because there's no way to pull it off again if you've already broken both horns. You'll probably have to lose a cart; the Food Skills that prevent a death counter are invaluable.

Dawn of the Death Star (Ice version) has the same strategy, but you use Fire instead.

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Why don’t my comments go in?!?! I have been doing the stupid robot test. My thumbs up and down haven’t been working either. If this ends up going through can someone explain? Thanks of this works!


~ Eriatha

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I really love this fight. It's just like Punk Duck's MHW video, and every time you fight Alatreon, you subconsciously punish his openings. Although, I do wonder why they put Alatreon at a very low MR (24 lmao), but yeh, if you are attempting this fight, I do recommend getting 3 pieces Safi and either 2 pieces Gold Rathian (specifically her Coil and Chest for that juicy level 5 devine blessing) or you can go 5 pieces Safi.

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What makes a good boss fight design? Let's see.
Malenia, from Elden Ring, has a "one shot" move that can easily kill any player if you get fully hit by her waterfowl dance,,, but it's an attack that anyone can avoid by getting gud, you can use any build, you have to learn the boss to avoid her "instakill move" which it's awesome, because you don't need to farm an specific setup just to beat a boss, you can even beat her at lvl 1
Now.. let's see Alatreon, if you don't have a very specific setup, you will get hit by his supernova attack which most likely will insta kill you and you can't do anything to avoid it... there's nothing to learn here because the damage is unavoidable, so "getting gud" here it's not a thing, and using an absurd amount of your time to farm the best weapon and armor just to survive his supernova it doesn't makes you a skilled player either, because if you try to use anything else, you will die no matter how good you are. So yeah, Alatreon it's just a garbage boss with artificial difficulty.

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i want to tear my ****ing eyeballs out

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Well i fought him in MH3 and now he is back to slap ma ass

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full safi armour is game-changing; got me my second slay and a realisation that I actually really like this fight

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I love the noises it makes, some of them remind me a little bit of Giratina

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So here is a question. Why do people hate him? I know you guys are going to say the nova and that it forces you to fight in a specific way but it’s a black dragon
that is the symbol of destruction! Of course you have to fight him in a specific way! And it’s not that’s bad! You can still beat him without the elemental (although it is very hard) but it’s still possible. Personally I love the fight. It’s is one of my favorites if not my favorite!
And who ever said you can’t take your favorite weapon? You still can!


~ Eriatha

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The fume knight looks different from how I remember him.

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I managed to craft his charge blade and upgrade it without even killing him. get scammed bozo

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Ok I am back to help some more about farming him if you don’t have events. I have finally broken the wings. To do that you need to ALWAYS have them softened. When you get the elemental topple go for the wings. If you where using the LS like me then if you can do a red gauge helm when he is toppled. Usually you have to walk slam him to break the wings. I don’t know why or how it works but it does. The tail is way easier. Just keep it softened and hit it often and it will break at some point. I think that is all I have to say. Happy hunting and don’t give up!!

~ Eriatha

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I'm not having fun anymore

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Hey I just wanted to give some tips for farming him I if you can’t do events(like me). So let’s start with what I use:So usually I am a DB main. Not for this quest. Here used the LS. Specifically Aspara Glacia. I would go with the Frostfang Barioth one but like I said I can’t do events.I think the insect glaive does well too. For armor I used Rimgaurd Head chest waist and legs. I used Hoarcy gauntlets(I was to lazy to farm for the Velkhana crystal). The skills I used where these:
Ice attack lvl6
Health boost lvl3
Fortitude
Divine Blessing lvl3
I don’t really remember the other skills because they where lvl1. Always take Temporal mantel and health booster. Make your cat take the plunder blade. ALWAYS!!!!!!!!! I took my cat with zinogre but that’s probably a bad choice. Now to the tips:
1 When you start put on the Temporal mantle and hit him as much as you can. You will always try to get that elemental topple. Remember the objective is to farm not kill him. If you kill him you will lose the ability to fight him if you don’t have events.
2 Once you have toppled him try to start breaking the tail or wings.(I still haven’t actually broken the wings)

3 Once he goes into Dragon mode ALWAYS go for the horns. You really don’t want him going into Ice mode. Usually walk slamming him is a good tactic.
4 Once he does the Nova you should place down the Health Booster. Always have a Max potion at hand to survive.

For the most part you just repeat this. Remember. You are just trying to survive. You WILL be guaranteed to lose. Once you have farmed him enough maje the Alatreon chest plate and helmet. After I did this I went with these skills:
Evade window lvl2
Speed Eating lvl1
Dragon Resistance lvl2
Ice attack lvl6
Health boost lvl3
Resentment lvl4

And a few others. When you eat you are always going with +50 to health. If you can find one meal that does that with increased elemental resistance that is perfect. I am still having trouble trying to break the wings. If you guys have any tips I will gladly take them!! I think that is all I have to say right now. Good luck and hoped this helped!! Happy Hunting!

~ Eriatha

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So if you beat Blazing Black Twilight are you able to repeat the quest? See I want to know since I cant do events and I was wondering if I needed to continue grinding with the Plunderblade to get his armor/weapons.

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I know a lot of people don't like this guy but he's probably my favorite fight so far as a solo player, Fatalis is the last thing I have left.

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What is a good pair of dual blades to use (I can’t play events so don’t mention them)

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what have i gotten myself into...

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very strong

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"Heavily nerfed"

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one punch dragon

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If you use the fatalis full set with a meta aquashot sticky build you can actually take this thing down within 15 minutes... Sadly you will need to take the Nova's to the face... Sorry it is what it is but look on the bright side it's very easy to break both horns with the aquashot sticky 3.

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So he does high damage right? Would defense or elemental resistance be better for damage reduction?

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this fight is scripted
every single time, 100% of the time, when I claw to his head he does the attack where he summons lightning bolts cancelling the temporal mantle if I am on his head
I even waited for him to do this attack once and claw immediately after and he does it twice in the row
wtf!
he never did it twice when I wasn't clawing onto him
I tested it and started the fight 7 times doing the same thing mantle then claw to his head after dodging the fire attack/charge forward and he used lightning attack the second I claw onto him 7 times in a row even if I time it differently
and how in the world do I break his horns if he's constantly flying away from me, in the air or turns his back to me? I only have SO many flashpods with me
how do I fight this trash if I can't smack him and he's scripted to prevent tenderizing and wall banging?
on the other hand toppling him is so easy I forgot he has this escaton judgement gimmick which is just a chance to buff since you don't get to in the beginning of the quest lol what great design go run into a corner and eat a jerky

this fight is the definition of artificial difficulty
even capcom realizes that because they added a quest where they heavily nerfed him so that people can go fight fatalis, which is an infinitely more fun and fair monster to fight
ffs he doesn't even get his own arena or an explanation beyond lol alatreon is here go murder him which is all you need this is just a throwaway placeholder before the REAL fight that is fatalis

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imma do his quest for the first time. wish me luck.

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I was an anon that posted here that failed many times and complained about the mechanics of the fight. However today a beat him in 24 minutes using a GS which I had not used since before the expansion.

I failed my core principle that got me through MHW "Always trust the ungabunga" . I tried several meta sets like Kjar ice Dual blades and other sets used by civilised players and failed a total of 36 times. Today I beat with level 10 rimeguard armor and played horribly as I usually do but with the power of ungabunga which I rejected, I beat him in a good time by my standards.

Always trust the ungabunga! It will never fail you hunters!

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Only bad thing I can say is despite breaking both his horns Alatreon still switches to ice/fire. That is the only difficult part preventing me from beating him. I got real close today and his moves are easier to telegraph and I get 2 topples easily, I'll beat him one day.

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Alatreon is a tough fight (arguably rightfully so as he is one of the two "endgame" monsters). Playing greatsword, I struggled a lot with my first clear but now consider alatreon my favorite fight. Here are some brief tips for those having trouble (some will be specific for greatsword).

- preface: Solo is recommended for your first playthrough as missing the damage check will not end in an instant failure. In my experience, I would estimate about 6/10 - 8/10 alatreon SOSs end in failure, but some succeed. At the end of the day, it's a game. If you want to SOS, fire it off.

1. Weapon and Food
- Use an ice weapon for any alatreon mission NOT called "dawn of the deathstar". This will give you the best chance for elemental topples. Blast and other status ailments will NOT help you reach the elemental DPS check
- Safeguard is always a nice food choice if carting is a concern.
- Moxie is another solid choice and can be paired with elemental defense up large. (however if the ground it on fire, the benefit can be negated)
- Felyne riser is another good choice (increase invulnerability window when getting up from knock down). Can be combined with felyne medic.

2. Some useful Items:
- NULLBERRIES. Bring 10 and preferably save for dragonblight since you wont to elemental damage with dragonblight.
- Ancient Potions. Great for a quick max heal and have the supplies for 10 more with 10 immunizers and 10 kelbi horns
- If concerned about getting caught sharpening, Whetfish Fin+ sharpen you in 1 stroke and can easily be obtained through the event "A fish to whet your appetite". (ghille mantle + capture net = easy fish)
- Mega-armorskin/demondrug

3. Armor skills and Mantles
- Health boost 3. 50 extra HP can easily be the difference between life and death. (personally consider this almost mandatory)
- Evade window 3. Can be great for dodging certain attacks and repositioning (however not 100% necessary if don't have the decos)
- Blight Resistance can be useful, but nullberries can also get the job done instead
- Fortify can pair nicely with safeguard, and the extra defense can be a nice boost
- (early-midgame) Greatsword users: Rimeguard Beta helm, chest, waist, legs; damascus beta arms; focus 2 (or higher charm) with glacial demon can work as a nice frostcraft crit draw build.
- Temporal "can" be a good choice when grappling BUT do NOT grapple the head when alatreon is doing any lightning attack
- Personally a fan of Dragon mantle if dragonblight is an issue
- rocksteady "can" be good but can also be a deathtrap. Use with care.

4. The Fight
- Enrage to increase amount of elemental (and raw damage) that alatreon takes.
- One possible opening: Temporal on, grapple face when safe, 3 claw attacks + weapon attack or 5 claw attacks
- If having trouble with elemental DPS check, focus forearms. Hindlegs are next best option. (Focus head for horn break in dragon mode)
-**Lightning strike attack: when alatreon winds up to summon several lightning strikes at once, watch the static in around him. If the static is moving towards him the strikes will begin far away and move towards him. If the static is moving away from him, the strike begin close to his body.
- THE GROUND IS YOUR FRIEND. Alatreon loves to combo you, SO if you get knocked to the ground, it is often better to lay there for a moment to decide how to respond to his next move.
- If things have gone according to plan, Alatreon has been toppled at least once, has had a horn broken, and is now about to escaton judgement. This may seem counter intuitive, but when you see him starting to escaton, RUN TO HIM. The damage is going to be the same across the entire field so if you set up under him, you can get free damage in when he lands. (If properly timed with a greatsword, this can mean a TCS)
- Rinse and repeat until victorious

I'm sure I'm forgetting some important points, but I hope that this overview has been helpful to anyone struggling with the fight. Best of luck!

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'sup, fellow hunters! Just soloed my first Alatreon today, took me a few tries, a couple of different weapons but I've finally got Alan with my weebstick. Now, let me share with you fellas a few tips, for starters: go solo. Yeah, it's pretty obvious but who knows? Maybe someone out there will try to kill this bad boy with randoms, anyway, don't do it, for the love of whatever deity you believe in: go. solo. Alan may seem a little terrifying when you're on your own but don't fret, he's a tough cookie but there's worse out there (looking at ya, Fatty), well, where were we again? Yes, defeating Alan. Equip yourself with as much Critical Eye as you can for dem sweet critical hits and Critical Boost for a... boost (sorry, I couldn't help myself). Agitator is good too, since Alan is pissed during most part of the battle, don't even bother with max attack, boost it to lv.4 and you're good to go. If you're a scrub like me and get hit often, bring Temporal Mantle, equip Tool Specialist so you can use it more frequently, oh, Health Regen in your weapon is a nice bonus, it can save you in a bind. Give your cat the Vigorwasp, it can revive you once if Alan kills you. If you can't hit the 20 points of Dragon Resistance, don't worry, just bring a few nullberries aaaaaand problem solved. Well, it's not as good as not having to worry about dragonblight at all but hey, better than nothing! And last but not least, Ice/Fire Attack, depending on what version of Alan you'll be facing. Once you're ready, go to town.

Try not to think much about the timer, it'll only get you killed faster, take your time, dodge and try to floor Alan when you get the chance, he screeches after an elemental attack, grab him by the face and yeet him to the floor, if you can't pull off a Flinch Shot, use the Temporal Mantle and send his crashing down. It's not easy to pass the DPS check but it's not that nightmarish either and even if you fail, it is not nearly as bad as it is when you fail with a team, you'll be sent back to camp and get another chance to kill Alan. If he changes to the element you're currently equiped with, it's okay, it won't be long until he shifts again, you'll only have less time to prevent his full-power Escargot Judgement but you still can catch up if you push a little harder, go for it if you think you can do it. If Alan takes his sweet time flying around, use a Smoke Bomb, once he loses sight of you, he'll land after a few seconds and you can resume the battle. Don't be shy about using your healing items, if you're in danger, use it, you'll likely cart anyway, or not, depending on how good you are, but if you can solo this battle without carting, you probably don't even need my help in the first place.

I cleared Alan's boss battle within 25 minutes, it's not that impressive but I got it anyways... now, on to craft me some weapons. ~♫

Good luck and happy hunting!

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Have 500+ hours of MHW, soloed every mother****er this game trhrew at me. Alatreon and Fatalis just sucked all of the joy of the game for me and made me quit. Just not fun to solo. No, i dont have ps+ :/

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For the last time
Please and i mean please don't bring raging brachy or alatreon weapons to a blazing black twilight. I have seen too many dark claw demises in my alatreon hunts.

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I call Alatreon the Black Destroyer

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I dunno why my comment got deleted, all i said was that Alatreon and Fatalis are not fun to solo :/

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To all the hammer mains disappointed about their low elemental damage, don’t fret. You can have your comfort armor but replace the helmet with a velkhana headpiece, even better if its the AT one. This will give you coalescence which is super useful. Then you can slot in frost/blaze jewels for that max ice/fire attack boost. What I really recommend is farming Safijiiva dracolites and getting a Safi Frostcrusher/Hellcrusher. You can then awaken it by using One velkhana divinity and the rest all element up. If u max it all up, you should have 900 plus ice/fire dmg. Why have the velkhana divinity? Because you have the Velkhana headpiece, you can activate the velkhana divinity bonus skill and get very good elemental damage when you critical. Memorise his moveset and learn about his openings after each attack, and you can finally topple alatreon and beat him up. You can easily break his horns with the hammer. btw u can always use any fire/ice weapon as long as the element is above 800, but if ur dps is not fast enough try to aim for 900. good luck, unga bunga mains! -sincerely from a bonker main

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eat for safeguard, its much easier to brute force it if you dont mind carting at least once

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Do I neeeeed to wear armour when fighting him??.. I broke his horn and I still died to escaton judgement

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Finally I can farm him with my Velkhana Gamma armor and my Safi Weapons. I need his LBG

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1. Bring Temporal and Rocksteady Mantle. BRING AN ICE WEAPON!!! Use Rocksteady for Fire mode and Temporal for Dragon Mode to flinch shot. Take off your mantle as SOON AS IT RUNS OUT.

2. Bring materials to craft max potions mid fight in case you run out of healing.

2. Do not flinch shot it until it's in Dragon Mode. Don't try to flinch shot when it's standing on the ground, it's too inconsistent, use temporal mantle to flinch shot it while it's flying. Focus on breaking the horn in dragon mode, best opportunity is after a flinch shot.

3. Use fast and multi hitting attacks to pass the DPS check. The best opportunity to attack is during lightning attacks. Make sure you dodge first though if it's targetting you with the line attacks.

4. During Eschaton Judgement eat Astera Jerky. Don't eat it too late, eat it about a second after the attack starts and eat another one when it's over to recover most of your HP.

5. Don't forget to restock all your healing items and bring dust if you do get carted.

6. Bring Blast Resistance 3 if you can. If you have dragonblight you STOP DOING ELEMENTAL DAMAGE. Or bring Coalescence to gain a strong elemental damage buff whenever you recover from a blight.

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This fight was easier, better and more fun in MH3U, it could be stunned fairly easily, it could get it's horns stuck in a couple walls (like diablos) and breaking it's horn actually hindered it since there was no dps (to my recollection). I learned hammer entirely in that game from just fighting it and I was GS main back then until Alateron. Now it just feels awful to fight, and maining lance doesn't help. I wish they brought Dire Miralis back instead of this but we already have one walking volcano, I guess two is one too many for capcom. Jhen Moran would've been cool to have too (it even has a subspieces, but it's second phase is just kinda a punching bag), but alas they took a great fight and made it feel like utter poo.

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Broke both of his horns with my Frostfang Barioth GS pretty quick. After seeing how much health he has I don't think I was even close...

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Say what you want about him but mf has the best quest names. ****ing Dawn of the Death Star and The Evening Star, Blazing Black Twilight, and Dawns Truimph.

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The monster that made me drop mhw..
I just can not stomach all the annoying mechanics in this fight.
Elemental blights of all kinds, a one shot if an invisible elemental dps check is not met, which in and of itself made elemental builds mandatory..constant flying, constant AoE spam..
The entire fight is just too cancerous to be bothered with.

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POV: you only wanted the long sword

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I just solo'd him today with Frostcraft Greatsword! What an incredible fight. It was so awesome and relieving seeing the camera pan around the slain Alatreon because I couldn't weaken the next escaton judgement; it had switched the the element of my weapon. 10/10 would play again.

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As much as I appreciate a challenge too much of the fight is cheap rather than challenging. Drops you in so you have to waste time buffing, only 2 or 3 actual walls to slam AL against, a backstep move, area sweep attacks and chaining moves that make his head a danger zone to clutch to plus flies. Escation Judgement is reasonable in comparison to all this. Though frankly the only two things I have extreme resentment for is the lack of "real" walls in the arena and the backstep fireball.

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other than db all weapons suck too low raw damage, such a cool monster to solo :(

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Thumbs up if you think Alatreon looks better or thumbs it down if you think Kulve looks better. Know time to thumbs down my own comment…

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i can never get the direwings, if anyone can help, can you reply?

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I've seen a few people say it's not sensible to try with a GS

I've failed a lot until now, but with the Taroth Blaze Thunder fully upgraded with Elem up and Bolt gems, I beat it by accident just now.
1000 thunder damage, baby

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Ok this might sound pathetic but I keep losing to the quest Dawns Triumph. I wreck the things health but he hits really hard. Can you guys give me some tips. I am wearing Shara armor and I am a LS main. I also use the IG SA and CB.

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Ёбаный элементальный дпс чек с конченной механикой. Фаталис легче этого куска говна.

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O dragon of the elements
See the Hunters pitch their tents
A battle had begun
A time of forever done
If this fight is lost
Hunters blow your horns
Hone your blades and release your arrows!

~M&S

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the Grim Reaper has arrived

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The run should be perfect. Kill him before the third eschaton breaking both horns and get it over with in sub 20 min... or be a scrub and use dragon element and fight him for 30 minutes without breaking a single horn, while loudly proclaiming how ‘easy’ he is on forums.

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i don't care about skills and attacks and other bullcrap, i just wanna fight this thing so bad but ruiner nergigante's being an ******* to me

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I would recommend only fighting solo or duo it is way easier, break the horns, and take him to pound town.

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What are some good LS builds for alatreon, I tried dark claw demise but that was doodoo

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Any tips on a good dps build with an insect glaive? Tryna solo this and im not getting anywhere.

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lol

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Yes finally i killedhim with my velkhana insevt glaive and send help bcs i did the dawn's triumph alatreon ;-;

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just realized the wiki is edited by scrubs. so much scrub info

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